to be honest it could go to 9.3 and be just fine
Yes.
Ruin everythings like 2019 again )))))))))
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F4C 9.3 and you will see such a spam, and people crying out loud that F-4C is unbalanced and breaking the game hard.
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maybe you want to mention that youre barely positive on kills/battle which means most of the heavy lifting was done by your team and you merely came to clean up what was left.
only a bad player with too much confidence would say that. Im positive in the milan and can assure you that its still a bad plane even if i can make it work. Do you know why?
Because theres enemy planes like the smt, that if played right, will kill you
I don’t really know why you’re coming in so hot, but I think my kills per battle was pretty evident in the screenshot I posted. I fail to see how it’s relevant to the topic at hand.
It’s also strange for you to take that number and create some narrative on how each battle played out, but whatever, as here you awkwardly slamming me given your total of (checks notes) zero games flown in either aircraft.
true the 150 games in a jet which is tiered higher and worse guns make me completely unqualified to tell you that fast planes without flares aren’t that great even if you can make it workl.
Kills/Battle is a metric to see if a person is playing aggressive or passive. As aggressive players will join more furballs and get more opportunities.
If you actually carried your teams multiple times your kills would be way higher than your battles. Especially with such a low numbers of battles. In the battles you won you probably camped the edge and came in to sweep up 1 or 2 distracted targets.
Deaths and defeats being almost the same is another hint that you play too passively. Your team dies and due to not being able to carry the games in the f104 you die and lose.
I think we’re getting wildly off topic here, and should you have any further critiques on my apparently abhorrent, passive and bad gameplay feel free to PM them to me.
That said, what narrative explains why my overall Kills/Battle is almost double yours?
It was a critique on your reasoning. Playing passive isnt bad, you get good stats, i know that. But you can play any vehicle passive. Passive enough and a mig21 f13 can get a good kd fighting exclusively top tier f14. So just because you can do good playing passively doesnt mean the plane is good at its tier. The f104 is a special case as it gets downtiers to anything 9.0 and lower where nothing can match its flight performance and you have free reign to do anything you want.
Our stats look different because our playstyles are. I play mostly ground and top tier while you play mostly low tier prop driven aircraft.
I can generate the same stats you have if i want, i simply don’t find it as fun as i like to play with my brain turned off or focusing on other things
Super funny.
Because the average player has drank the kool aid and thinks these BRs are fine. I remember when the game was actually playable and the F-104s were 10.0.
Also, I’m not sure what you were trying to show earlier. Didn’t do a lick of convincing.
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Because the F_104 and MiG-19 aren’t already 9.3 and are about as good?
I have +200 battles in the F4C - always used as a fighter, half of which took place before the all aspect crap - it was much much more fun back then (my first proper supersonic :') [nah fook the f100])
Not having flares at these br’s can be very annoying - applies to all 10.0 flareless planes.
Most of the time eating a missile in the F4C in my case was caused by lack of attention, the bs spotting system doesn’t help…
It has 4 ok missiles - most of the time missiles connect to only unaware targets anyway
(even the better AAMs)
And the Aim7D will only get yourself killed if you try to get them off the rails too hard, far too unreliable to use them IMO
The Vulcan wins this plane for me - or even better - two vulcans so you can turn off half of you brain when aiming.
If this thing would end up at 9.7 it would be quite a menace for the 8.7’s. MIG19,21 and 104 still are but prolly not to the level that the F4C would bring it to. But with 10.0br it really doesn’t deserve to fight against 11.0
(and the fact that Aim7D could actually end up being reliable against 8.7 is scary lol)
And thats still better than premium all aspect nubs fighting against 8.7’s :V (still hard to comprehend that gaijin rly did this to players not so long ago…)
To sum up - What does this look like? Like another desperate call for decompression.
This plane is powercreept(like so many others) and the game compressed into oblivion
so as long as gaijin will continue with it’s awful “players don’t want to sit longer in queue” rhetoric to deny decompression nothing good will come out further br changes.
Meanwhile y’all jump on each other “flexing” kd’s or just “because” lol
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the F4C is a bigger easier target than the mig 21s its just more dangerous to sub sonics, and dumb players .8.7s and 8.3s are already going up against aim 9ds and R-60s hell 8.0s are going up against shafrir 2’s and they have no hopes in dodging them from the rear.
its already over, but you would still have people flying f4cs at ground level getting killed by F86s and mig 15s
How MiG-15/MiG-15bis can face against F-4C in ARB except squad?
I haven’t played this game for a few days because I’m on hospital rn but, have Gaijin changed the BR spread to 1.3BR in that time?
No, they’re more than likely in a squad with a 9.0.
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no… im saying there are people stupid enough to fly a F4C ground level trying to turn fight a mig 15. I’ve seen this in ground RB and the Mig 15 player killed them.
That’s explain how average players are dumb in this game and it doesn’t mean F-4C should go lower BR.
We are talking about ARB not tonk battles btw.
i’ve seen prop planes kill f4c players in air rb matches, and the F4C going to 9.7 is no different from the 9.7 lightning.
The Lightning is 9.3 BR, not 9.7. Anyway, saying the F-4C is no different from the 9.7 Lightning goes against your argument - the 9.7 Lightning was overpowered, and the 9.7 F-4C would be an even bigger issue because it’s a better plane than the EEL.
So what we really need is the 9.7 EEL, MiG-19, F-104 and Yak-38 - this ruining 9.3 business is only leading to problems in the future. What happens when we get the 8.7 F-2 Sabre? or the 8.3 MiG-15bis?
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