Reduce the F-4C's BR

all you’ve been saying is Defyn this Defyn that

if any of y’all could read it would have been clear I only brought up the whole defyn argument because one of you tried the ol classic “skill issue” and I shut that one down QUICK with me saying a much better player than you disagrees. I don’t give a damn otherwise

Very. That’s my concern, I’ll go out of my way to say that I can win dogfight against 7.0 jets with planes like Reppu.

It is skill issue though, if you can’t adapt your playstyle to cover your airframe weakness and increase it’s advantage then it’s all on you, an incompetent pilot.

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Not going to continue this until one of you learns how to read English, you’re about 12 kilometers from the point.

imo put MiG-21F13/PFM on the same BR as F4C (but leave it at 10.0) and then move all more modern jets up by 1BR

issue fixed, problem solved

You should quit the discussion too skill issue boy.

Except that would solve nothing

Weird how my stats are better

It’s a bandaid, won’t last long, my solution would do the team a favour.

You’re statpadding in US 5.7-6.3, it’s hardly comparable

it’d solve the problem of subsonics facing supersonics and modern Attackers

F4C and F13/PFM would face themselves mostly and occasionally some late Subsonic jets as well as occasionally some more modern jets

I know it will work Because it was this way when they were first introduced

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Not once, but multiple times…

What he is describing and what you have to do to live in these jets without flares is what passive is. IE flying around at altitude or away from the furball waiting for some lucky opportunity to engage without dying. You are actively a wasted slot until you start fighting.

Playing passive = you’re not playing well. period.

People who suggest playing passively are themselves terrible players. You do not want to win. I do. Therefore playing passively is counter-productive.

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you could also add J35A and F-100 and equivalents to that 10.0

They could also reimplement the Matchmaking Wall at 9.7 / 9.3 BR or so, and fill out the 50’s 60’s jets to make fairer this would be key since the top BR aircraft have limited slots available to them so they will see less full uptiers into 10.3 / 10.7.

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playing passively is playing to survive

if done right you’ll perform better passively than agressively because you get more chances to perform before turning into a flaming wreck after going too far

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Wall is useless, we just need to implement ±0.7 matchmaking range where we don’t have to be useless in full uptier, instead we’re fighting plane that takes more skill than Brawn to win.

with that after the wall they could also change the matchmaker to smaller matches of 6v6 or 4v4/ 3v3

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that one affects Balanced BRs too much imo

Not really, like this there’s more chance for player to actually stay longer in the game because you’d notice meaningful but workable performance difference at .7 uptier, at 1.0 uptier you’re utterly useless.

100%

Not only that, the RP/SL rewards from staying alive and winning a 10-15 minute match in Rank 5 and 6 are exponentially greater than playing 2 or 3 matches over the same time time and exchanging your plane with an opponent after 1 or 2 kills 3 minutes into a match.

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