Yea and did you read the original topic we are on?
He legit said F8F-1 is comparable to yak3u (not even close) and should be up there with the F8F-1B at 6.3 cuz they got the same airframe and engine (i think) even tho I just prove that the F8F-1 got absolutely stomp by yak3u. Maybe the F8F-1B needs to come down in BR instead.
if he hates F8F so much for its slightly faster speed in a straight line, I cant wait for him to go up in BR and meet the f104 lol. Im expecting a 12 font size - Times New Roman font - 2 page essay from this guy on how its under-tiered
Yea like I said, 99%. And Japanese zero still dominates those BR range anyway.
it can outrun everything and most other fast props are already in the US TT
i dont know how you still dont get that you dont need to TURNfight something that TURNS better (btw i think the P36 wins the turnfight against a zero)
even tho i agree that the zero at 3.3 is kinda good
the yak can pull energy out of its ass not even a LF MK IX can do that as good as the yak
Not sure if we have discussed this somewhere else, but the key to have fun with the Hellcat is just partially altitude - it is a combination of:
proper MEC usage and management (including supercharger gear changes at critical alts 0,8 -1,3 km and 4,9 - 5,3 km depending on WEP usage)
proper energy management & always maintaining a high energy state
disabling the Instructor & rare flap usage
the usage of a Hotas (like me) or Mouse AND Keyboard for control surfaces
general avoidance of vertical maneuvering
Have a good one!
With altitude to work - yes. But both can be easily taken out by vertical loops - SB2C is than a free kill and the Sandies need just patience.
Have a good one!
From my pov your interpretation of the OP’s opinion is not really on target.
Your comparison regarding flight performance (Yak-3U vs F8F) does not cover the fact that the Yak-3U is even at 5.7 severely undertiered - the OP states clearly that he sees the F8F-1 at 5.7 if experienced pilots use them. That is also the reason why every experienced player is focusing on Yak-3s/3Us as primary target as you can’t win without killing them.
As long as just a handful experienced players use them the 4.7 BR seems adequate - at least if you know how to counter them.
The addressed criticism focuses on the poor US player base (which are imho on par with USSR players) which uses the Bearcat for base bombing. As he can back up his claims with excellent stats there is no reason to reject his opinion - especially if you see this rather sad waste of the F8F-1 (almost) daily.
The solution for this issue is quite simple - all gaijin has to do is to deny bomb payloads within the first 10-12 minutes as this would enforce a usage as fighter and stop this base bombing nonsense. With a focus on fighting enemy players due to a lack of heavy bomb loads the Bearcat players have to improve.
as a person who played the f8f a lot, that thing fucking SLAPS and deserves to go up in br lol. I feel bad for the other planes that have to deal with the undertiered US planes
i mean that is a yak 3. they are pretty insane. face it in c205 or 109 G6 so its fairer
also the average US pilot is not doing an aircraft any favours, look at when a US tree plane appears in minor nations to see how massive the skill gap is.
This is the canon version at 6.3, france players do a lot better in it vs american ones (Tbf this one probably should go to 6.0 if 6.7 is going to be staying full of OP jet trainers)
I havent really played the F8F-1 at 4.7, i mostly played the 6.3 one which is still very competitive even against jets, but both have insanely good airframes in my experience. The 4.7 one is a little lacking in armament, i must admit but its air performance is extremely good
It is literally one of the most abysmal dogshit planes to exist. It may technically have a decently tight turn circle, however it has 0 ability to go verticle.
XF5F is a late prop, guess it’s also a super prop now.
The 3.3 Hellcat outturns any Yak (so including 4.0 and 4.3 Yak-3s) in the BR range. You don’t have to trust me - just deactivate the instructor you can do this too:
And regarding vertical maneuvers - I wrote that you need some brainpower to use Hellcats:
Yes, it outturns a Yak. The P-51D-30 also outturns Yaks. But wanna know what those planes can’t do? Go verticle even heavier fighters like the P-47 can beat the F6F by going verticle.
XF5F Skyrocket, are you intending to derail the topic?
There are massive time gap between the first flight of XF5F and F8F.
Nobody calls Spitfire Mk.III and Spitfire Mk.22 are the same Spitfire; the technology used on XF5F or F8F are different
And F8F-1 came out on the FINAL STAGE OF WAR, as you know, for Christ’s sake.
