@KillaKiwi, @lynx15
Please, both of you, chill down a bit.
Yes, spec of 50cal is essential to discuss about F8F-1, which has four 50cal.
But, concentrating on about 50cal itself a bit too much is slightly off-topic, I guess.
I reckon the single 50cal itself is a debatable gun.
Especially when those guns are filled with an early-war belt of something (which isn’t the case of F8F-1)
For me, I prefer the late-war laser belt 50cal over Ho-103 or Breda-safat, but for the early belt one, I am a bit prefer Breda over 50cal, maybe.
And back to the original topic, I reckon that a spec of a single 50cal cannot give indulgence to F8F-1 being 4.7BR.
Probably at least 5.0 would be fine to try if we think about P-51D-30 or P-51K?
I mean, they’re probably not raising them directly from 4.7 to 5.3-5.7 in one step.
I don’t statpad or really take the game seriously, prolly a side effect of playing TF2. I don’t struggle to destroy F8Fs, they’re a relatively easy target compared to Yaks, Spitties, and Zeros. If someone is struggling to destroy a plane that someone as bad as me has no issue facing, then that is simply their skill issue and nothing more.
Better question, how are you getting clapped so hard by a mid plane if you’re supposedly better?
You mean after kicking RXDima?
The P-51D-30 ain’t exactly a shining star at 5.0. 4.7 is fine for the F8F, especially when you consider most 4.7s are better than it. Advocating for the F8F to go up before general decompression is just silly.
Then face the consequence of it.
If you have good stats but made a bad take, some random guys will be your meatshield
If you have bad stats ‘and’ made a bad take, you will be ashamed by stats too.
Both have only one solution: don’t make a bad take.
If you have good stats and make a good take, noone will care about your stats.
If you have bad stats and make a good take, noone will care about your stats.
Because majorities of them just stuck on the ground and shot ground targets, while every other teammate who chose to climb was literally slaughtered by Hayate at higher altitudes, because they got outnumbered. thanks to US Main players.
No no no no no no. That is not the goddamn point ffs.
Since Feb 4, till today, you learnt nothing…
F8F-1 is an undergunned superprop. Someone who can ride that broncho, things become very nasty real quick.
Because it isn’t a mid plane?
They are planes of lions led by a sheep.
She isn’t meta, unlike Yak does. But she still has some kicks.
Hmm, I thought she was a shining star when I flew with P-51K. almost everything which I disliked when I flew with P-51D-5/20 were dealt with.
Because you excluded nearly every non-meta 4.3-5.0 off the table as you previously claimed ‘no1 plays’?
Hmm, I usually don’t give a damn about the opponent’s stat and only looks with takes
I remember I told you, even if DEFYN made a bad take here, I would’ve argued against him before.
Oh well, statshaming isn’t the main topic of this, and further discussion would be off topic.
Because you want to dismiss any contribution of US main’s about prop meta, because you are US main?
Probably Soviet planes are also part of the problem, but completely excluding the skill issue of US because they are famous… is unacceptable.
How the f- it is a massive exaggeration?
F8F-1B is a superprop, and F8F-1 is an undergunned earlier variant, which is armed with 50cal M2 instead of 20mm.
So, it is undergunned superprop.
Just like how USN/USAAF clapped IJNAS’s ass in the late stage of pacific war?
You want to tell those old vets ate their cake while having those, too?
Late war japanese planes can theoretically compete against American planes just like how they do in War Thunder
But they just got slaughtered by two parts: a lack of skill on the engineers, and a lack of skills on the pilots.
No? If we think about Ki-61-I hei, Spitfire Vc/Trop, C.205, Fw 190A-8, and Seafire LF Mk.III
F8F-1 needs to go up.
Quite easy to move a goalpost by mentioning a false equivalent, such as B-17, right?
Seems it is one of your power moves. :/
I have the majority of the Soviet and German props ground. Actually, if anything, it’s in my best interest that the U.S. air tree be nerfed more so it’s easier to grind other nations.
Not when it’s outflown by normal, non superprops, e.g Yak, Zero and Spitfire. The P-51H-5 is a superprop, the F8F is not.
I’d bet my money on a spitfire beating an F8F in a fight.
Don’t you dare lie in front of me, pal.
The majority of the soviets and German props ground… oh, you mean you excluded those which you think no one plays, how convenient.
You act like US Main, You speak like US Main…
Then you are US Main… and the number gap between US Aircraft vs non-us aircrafts are drastically big.
Are you creating the definition?
F8F is one of the latest prop fighters, which came out in the final stages of WW2 and right before jets came out.
No matter how you believe or not, she is superprob. just like how Seafire FR.47 or Sea Fury does.
Logic isn’t a skill of yours, aren’t you?
I explained this again and again and again.
I shot F8F-1 down while I plays Ki-61-I Hei =/= Ki-61-I Hei is better plane than F8F-1
You shot F-5C down while you play AV-8C =/= AV-8C is better dogfighter than F-5C
If you really believe that I moved the goalpost by mentioning a false equivalent…
Then it must’ve tragedy of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare.
the 1B’s 20mms are the only thing keeping the 1B relevant. Bear in mind, the F4U-1C is 2.0 above the 1A, and it as the exact same advantage of swapping .50cals for 20mms.
not from what ive seen. F8F pilots, most of the time, just climb before being slaughtered by better planes like yaks and spitties.
no, not by a long shot.
cant outclimb em, and doing BnZ with nothing but four crappy M2 Brownings aint very viable either.
The plane that turns better, climbs better, and has stronger guns is better.
Nope.
You can make the exact same argument that people who claim the F8F is good “from playing it” are only doing well because they’re facing low levels.
Meh, the F8F-1B is kinda comparable to the P-51D-30 (for their BRs). It can reasonably hold its own in a fight, but there’s really no reason to spawn it when every other plane at their BR is better.
nope.
P-51C-10 ain’t BnZ’er, and 2.7 tend to be rather squishy.
do you have any idea what you are even talking about? i can tell you the P-51 is indeed not winning a turn or most energyfights
(btw did you even read the part after that? let me help you
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*3.7
tbh i dont even know why i am arguing with a person that just ignores everything they dont agree with
this is just wasting my time and i dont think your opinion rlly matters here
nor does mine in the end
