Raise the F8F up or put it at Rank 4 just before or after the cannon U4's

I remember that you called it worse in your ‘flagged’ post…
And I found part of it in my older reply.

‘Upgrade of a shitty 3.3 at 4.7’
‘people struggling to fight an upgrade of a shitty 3.3 at 4.7 is kinda wild.’

It sounds like
“I did not have wild claims with that plane, F8F-1”

Thank you for literally proving my point that I called it an upgrade.

Sir, stop playing with your word. Look at the forest instead of the tree.

proving your point? No, I am dismissing your point.

Of course, F8F-1 is an upgrade of F6F-5, but it doesn’t save your six.

Your take sounds like
“Indeed, I did have a claim about F8F-1 that she was an upgrade of F6F-5.”

If we consider whole takes which you argued in this topic,

You nearly dismissed the upgrade.

‘a upgrade of shitty 3.3 at 4.7’
Yes. F8F-1 at 4.7 is an upgrade of F6F-5 at 3.3. But you didn’t mean it. right?
You meant ‘F6F-5 is awful, and I wonder why people whine about the upgraded version of an awful plane, which is on even higher BR’.

You literally said it was worse than the Yak-7B (2.7), at this point you should just admit that you were wrong like you were about the AV-8C vs F-5, or just stop all this nonsense

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the more I play the F8F-1 the more i understand it’s BR

don’ts for this aircraft:

  • Headon with anyone
  • have lower altitude than anyone else
  • fight more than 1 enemy at a time (you’ll spend half you ammo setting him on fire)
  • get scratched by anything (your wing falls off)

Dos in this aircraft

  • climb for your life
  • carefully position yourself above enemies
  • avoid anything at high altitudes
  • aim for the Pilot, nothing else will take meaningful damage

its main problem is it’s extremely weak armament for the BR, and for a .50 cal armed Fighter at any BR

Typhoon supposed to win this dogfight easily tho

dude please stop posting I know we’ve had our arguments but I’ve played long enough to know that there are plenty of planes that are on like the f5 but I’m just not good with no matter what, the f8f is that for you, in other people’s hands it’s extremely overpowered I promise

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Yes, I’m clearly struggling to fly a plane I have a single game in . . .

Nope. If that were true then they wouldn’t be free kills in ARB.

Thiis me with the F1C, good grinder but I just suck in it. Also the magic 2’s aren’t what I was promised, lots of launches getting flared off (please don’t mention aspects, I know them.).

and the FM is straight up horrible.

It’s mostly this. You’re a capable fighter with extremely trashy unusable guns.
Your only reliable means of damage is wing spar damage and pilot snipes.

Replace “Your wing falls off” with “Your entire tail falls off.” though.

You can be great in a 1 v 1 and if you’re super aware and can conserve energy you are a danger. But you’re hampered by the point harmonization of your guns and your guns don’t light things like they should.

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When someone knows how to flare, should they be killed anyway because muh magic 2?

Funny because one kept up in a two circle with my F-15A the other day

Please do not exaggerate to try to make a point.

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You have a very nasty habit of putting words in people’s mouths, you know that? This isn’t vice principal’s season 2, you don’t need to be abrasive 24/7.

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Then what exactly do you mean?

And no, not a case of survivorship bias. The F1 was capable of keeping up with the F-15A in a 2 circle. That will be the case if you fight a F-15 as well. You can’t bring up random fallacies like its the konami code.

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That the magic 2 isn’t this insane gift from god that everyone freak out about, it’s great and reliable but not overpowered or anything, I never said I deserved to get a kill every time I launch one. And look no offense, but it seems like you require very precise statements at all times and this is a forum around a video game for kids, not my tax returns, maybe “what I was promised” wasn’t the best way to phrase my thoughts but frankly i don’t owe you squat. Peace, i’m not derailing this any further.

This is not a video game for kids. You’re just getting upset for no real reason at the moment.

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They do suck. They barely light fuel fires anymore and I get most of my kills from having to hit the spars, empennage, or Pilot.


You can maybe get one shot fires but that heavily depends as it’s a one-in-a-blue-moon-event
For a round that from testing and real world analysis of extensive guncam footage by the Ordnance Department and the U.S. Strategic Air Forces of Europe showed that API and API-T should be lighting fuel tanks on fire with two hits
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“You just have to sit on the dude’s rear and shred him and THEN they’ll work!”

If they were to make .50 cals exactly as effective as you claim, would you be ok with uptiering every usa prop by basically 1.0-1.7?

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Depends. We already have a metric if you remember back in 2014 and 2015 where .50s basically did piss all physical damage to the aircraft, but instantly caught everything on fire.

I don’t get why you gasp and have a heart palpitation about this while you’re having anything with HE filler do cartoonishly large amounts of damage.




P-63 going down from just a few hits from the Berezins. Gaijin’s modeling of HE is astronomically laughable as almost every gun with HE is punching WAYYY above it’s weight especially with how paper flight models are. Yet you don’t seem to have a problem with that.

Even back then I think it underperformed slightly as some of the early Phly P-47 videos show the tanks being hit on an A6M and they didn’t light up.

So if I’m trading snapping peoples wings off with just instantly lighting them up. I think that’s a fair trade. Because at the end of the day, I still need to hit a fuel tank or something flammable.

Another fix they can do is to finally add in the suggestion they accepted and have each gun be able to get it’s own unique convergence. What we have in-game is called “Point-harmonization” And even the Fighter Gun Harmonization book states it’s inefficient.
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It’s part of the reason why you see .50s spray everywhere in a lot of guncam footage but at other times be laser accurate as pilots had preferences

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Do you mind just answering the question I presented? Most USA props are undertiered to some degree as is. Making their guns more effective than cannons will have consequences.

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