You have a very nasty habit of putting words in people’s mouths, you know that? This isn’t vice principal’s season 2, you don’t need to be abrasive 24/7.
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Then what exactly do you mean?
And no, not a case of survivorship bias. The F1 was capable of keeping up with the F-15A in a 2 circle. That will be the case if you fight a F-15 as well. You can’t bring up random fallacies like its the konami code.
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That the magic 2 isn’t this insane gift from god that everyone freak out about, it’s great and reliable but not overpowered or anything, I never said I deserved to get a kill every time I launch one. And look no offense, but it seems like you require very precise statements at all times and this is a forum around a video game for kids, not my tax returns, maybe “what I was promised” wasn’t the best way to phrase my thoughts but frankly i don’t owe you squat. Peace, i’m not derailing this any further.
This is not a video game for kids. You’re just getting upset for no real reason at the moment.
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They do suck. They barely light fuel fires anymore and I get most of my kills from having to hit the spars, empennage, or Pilot.
You can maybe get one shot fires but that heavily depends as it’s a one-in-a-blue-moon-event
For a round that from testing and real world analysis of extensive guncam footage by the Ordnance Department and the U.S. Strategic Air Forces of Europe showed that API and API-T should be lighting fuel tanks on fire with two hits
“You just have to sit on the dude’s rear and shred him and THEN they’ll work!”
If they were to make .50 cals exactly as effective as you claim, would you be ok with uptiering every usa prop by basically 1.0-1.7?
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Depends. We already have a metric if you remember back in 2014 and 2015 where .50s basically did piss all physical damage to the aircraft, but instantly caught everything on fire.
I don’t get why you gasp and have a heart palpitation about this while you’re having anything with HE filler do cartoonishly large amounts of damage.
P-63 going down from just a few hits from the Berezins. Gaijin’s modeling of HE is astronomically laughable as almost every gun with HE is punching WAYYY above it’s weight especially with how paper flight models are. Yet you don’t seem to have a problem with that.
Even back then I think it underperformed slightly as some of the early Phly P-47 videos show the tanks being hit on an A6M and they didn’t light up.
So if I’m trading snapping peoples wings off with just instantly lighting them up. I think that’s a fair trade. Because at the end of the day, I still need to hit a fuel tank or something flammable.
Another fix they can do is to finally add in the suggestion they accepted and have each gun be able to get it’s own unique convergence. What we have in-game is called “Point-harmonization” And even the Fighter Gun Harmonization book states it’s inefficient.
It’s part of the reason why you see .50s spray everywhere in a lot of guncam footage but at other times be laser accurate as pilots had preferences
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Do you mind just answering the question I presented? Most USA props are undertiered to some degree as is. Making their guns more effective than cannons will have consequences.
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Can you quote where I said anything about damage from other guns? Furthermore, you are disregarding all other upsides/downsides of all of the guns talked about besides from isolating shell damage.
So, to start with, lighting someone on fire 95% of the time is a death sentence regardless. Second, as I alluded to earlier, .50 cals very a wealth of advantages such as ballistics, rate of fire, ammo count, etc already over most peer cannons. Most props will have to get by with 60-120 rounds of cannon ammo even if they only have 1-2 cannons such as the BF-109 series. Why would you have the .50 cals do the same effective damage, while also having them be superior in all other metrics?
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I did:
It depends.
Because you’re trying to force a binary yes or no on an issue that you can’t answer yes or no. We know for a fact .50s were better igniters back then. We know for a fact .50s did less structural damage back then. So you now have to ask
How effective is the airframe? If Gaijin doesn’t completely revamp how incendiary rounds work, then the P-39, P-40, F2A, P-36, are basically completely the same and unchanged
Should the D-22 be forced to face Yak-3Us and Griffon Spitfires just because it can light fuel tanks easily?
Because you still have to hit a fuel tank? You still need to hit something flammable? Is getting caught on fire annoying? Yeah. So is getting split in half by an La-7 getting a lucky hit on you.
So you know what the real annoyance is? Dying in the game!
I mean, we literally have metrics to look at. You can look at old footage and everyone knew that .50s were flamethrowers and yet people still played other aircraft because they had great performance and other things going for them.
I don’t see why you’re having a brain aneurism when cannons are now at their strongest they’ve ever been compared to back then. The only time when .50s were worse was back when they did no structural damage and they lowered the flame chances about as bad as they did now. So instead of at least wing snaps on spars that can almost be as thin as the control cables. You had to rely on pilot snipes and engine kills.
Lol, no. The only way you can argue that U.S. has more than a handful undertiered props is if you’re arguing compression.
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You mean destroying RXDima is both energy fighting and dogfighting? Leina is a far better player. I’m by no means even a good player. Leina played pretty much perfectly, and even then I got firing solutions where I simply wasn’t confident in my aim. RXDima made small mistakes, which his F8F punished far harder than my Typhoon punished my mistakes.
If anything, the fact that the dogfights were as close as they were between a pilot as bad as me, and a pilot as good as Leina is a very good indicator that the F8F is not overpowered.
Wow, really? Destroying me? Did you just ignore everything I showed you? Zero lessons learned from fighting me? Not a single thing?
You weren’t getting any reliable shots on Leina either, the only one time you killed him he was literally fucking around
Honestly I should just back off, this is unsustainable
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Implying the P-39, F2A, and P-36 don’t currently have FM advantages at their BR? That would be massively incorrect. P-39 in specific is very undertiered currently.
This is not difficult?
Replace annoying with “deadly 95% of the time” and your statement becomes a bit more accurate.
That La-7 has to contend with worse ballistics, rate of fire, and ammo count.
You can stop saying this, thanks. I’m just telling you that USA aircraft are often undertiered currently and that buffing the .50 cals will make them more so.
There is no reason for me to respond to you beyond this sentence.
It’s skill issue when you lose but clearly an aircraft advantage when you win, of course.
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Dude, you were going on in chat about “leading the fight” and whatnot, immediately before being forced to the deck. The fight between me and you was the equivalent of an F-104 running away from a fight and thinking that meant it wins.
Actually the other way around, or so i’ve heard. Every American vehicle has bad stats cause the players suck, except for the XM246 which is clearly OP and so much better than all the other Gepards.
At the end of the day, the dogfights (ignoring the 15 minute’s of circling while climbing) between me and RXDima lasted far shorter than the dogfights between me and Leina. If the F8F was truly an OP plane, it would’ve been the other way around.
I was referring to you deflecting every duel you’ve ever had.
XM246’s problem, not that you need to be told a 39th time, is the bugged turret causing darts to nonpen the crew compartment because of blackhole modules.
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I’ve had four duels. The first with RunaDacino, and we all know how that went.
The second with some guy who thought the F-5 was OP. He beat me in an F-5C v.s F-5E battle, and the F-5E is supposedly better than the C so that was just skill issue on my end.
The third and fourth duels were against Leina and RXDima. Both are better pilots than me, however Leina was playing near perfeclty.
Is that it’s American and people hate when America actually gets equal vehicles to other nations.
You do realize that those modules mean singular 20mm APCR can result in a complete loss of the ability to fire without even hitting a crewmember right? nvm ofc you don’t. You’re never played any of the vehicles involved.
Ok, let’s disregard the fact I’ve sent 500+ pen apfsds through the turret only for the vehicle to continue firing and kill me. I’m sure the other 35mm spaa do that, oh wait! No they don’t.
I’ve whacked Gepards (and Gepard clones) with 155mm HE and watched it return “hit.” I’ve shoved multiple TOWs and M728s into the side of Gepards’ turrets. The XM246 is not even remotely alone in having dumb volumetric moddelling. The fact that you’re saying the XM246 is stronger than the rest of the Gepards just proves my point.
It’s only skill issue when the American vehicle performs poorly, and it’s only OP vehicles when the American vehicle has average or above average stats.