R2Y2, really worth 8.0?

Lets see how the R2Y2 does against the F-80C

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I am still waiting

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Since i showed him that he doesnt know what he is talking about when he claimed that the Mirage 2000 was better than the MiG-29, this is the second time he’s hidden his tail between his legs.

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Yes, when he said that JH-7A wins vs F-5E

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maybe ‘Still not Spaded’?

You want to get memed on again?
Last time I used the aircraft I said was worse than the Mirage 2000 in 1v1s: The Mig-29.
I gave you my rules for this as well, I will use the worse aircraft.

You bailed when I gave you these rules and now you’re claiming I bailed after you bailed.

I’ve been thinking about amended rules, but I keep thinking of ways someone that doesn’t want fair parameters to exploit that.
The preliminary alternative is large map 1v1, running out of fuel is a loss.

IDK why you can’t accept Statshark’s results.

He won against a F-5E while only having 1 mod on, JH-7A best dogfighter ever!!1!1!

You said it was worst, otherwise you wouldnt have done the 1v1, keep twisting your words and stop de-railing the topic.

Ah so you will play the R2Y 2 then? Nice

Nice try.

You dont know how duels works, you dont get to say the rules.

I accept Statshark graps, it is you (once again) that doesnt know how to read them.

So, you want to test the JH-7A + R2Y2, you playing the plane you claimed it was better? Or are you gonna bail again?

I guess you have no arguments left @AlvisWisla ty for proving that the R2Y2 is worse.

Hi All! Let’s avoid personal digs and keep things respectful, even if there’s disagreement. We want the forum to be a place for open discussion — not for taunts or gloating. Please stay constructive.

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Here you go @AlvisWisla
Using your own argument so you cant report me for “taunts or gloating”:

I am one of the good players, not according to me but according to the game and third party systems.

As you can see, Im objectively speaking, better than you according to Statshark.
After playing the R2Y2 V1 and achieving a KD close to 10, I can confirm that this plane is a piece of garbage that cant do anything in 8.0, the only reason i got that KD and WR is because people at this BR is beyond bad and dont know what they are doing, but if a single one of them gets to use 2 braincells they will destroy me without even trying.

People runs more than you, accelerates more than you, retains energy better than you, not to mention the constant uptiers to 9.0.
I bet even a S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (Late) could win vs a R2Y2 V3 just draining his speed.

Get your facts straight before saying something in the forum because you mislead everyone with lies.

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@Reaf_McCawley
I’ve literally never called anyone here any of those things.
I’ve never accused anyone here of anything.

In-fact, I let the blatantly false accusations against me sit on their own, cause smart people know that falsely accusing others of things they never did is an overreaction to their posts that are purely stating a different perspective.

“Admitting you make mistakes [editing their posts to fix mistakes] is gaslighting!” What a trash take.
If you genuinely believe that people admitting when they make mistakes is gaslighting, then your post is portraying you as never having admitted to making mistakes out of fear of being considered something negative.
If you don’t want your post to do that, I recommend editing it to change its meaning.

Go learn what gaslighting is: Gaslighting is not admitting when I make mistakes, gaslighting is not when I tell people their feelings matter, gaslighting is not when I constantly tell people that their perspective and memories matter.

@Leinadmix9_ツ
Just because an F-104A is faster than a Mig-19 doesn’t make the F-104A better.
War Thunder air RB is more than about speed.

And I’m glad you agree with me that 9.0 is BR compressed. That is no reason to reduce the BR of F-84G, MD452, etc just because of your very real feelings.
Wrong conclusion to the problem described.
Also your stats contradict your post.

You have and there are multiple people that can testify to that. The fact is you post replies that make fun of people or insult them, wait for them to reply, and then you go and edit/delete your post to make it look like you did nothing and they lash out at you for no reason. Same way you made fun of me for “spending all day every day playing the game and being proud of that” and then deleted it.

No you don’t. You act as explained above or report any other post that states fact about your character under the guise of “being demeaning and offensive towards you”. As I said in the post you reported - All bark but no bite. Or in other words, you can dish out the smoke but can’t take it yourself.

Here it is, yet another example of you putting words in someone else’s mouth and trying to gaslight me and everyone else that I am acting in your image.

Also quoting yourself from another topic, as if people there weren’t all onto you and not buying the bs you were selling, means nothing. You are not a moderator and fooling the ones that actually are placed here to do that job doesn’t mean you are going to become one.

And to end my interactions with you once and for all:
I could have agreed with your position of moving other planes up to make the R2Y2’s issue void, but sadly you did not start with that argument and only came up with it in the last 2 weeks. Before that you were just arguing for the sake arguing. Either that or you are incapable of putting you point across even if your life depended on it. That coupled with your shady conduct and documented past of behaving in the same manner in the past made me lose any respect for you or your opinions on any matter at all. This is the last time I address you directly and you will be ignored in the future.

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@Reaf_McCawley


July 23rd, 2023. Me saying that 8.3 - 10.3 needs to be decompressed to alleviate 7.7 - 9.3 compression.

That is not 2 weeks ago, that was almost 2 years ago and that’s not even my first demand that the 9.3 area of BRs gets decompressed to alleviate 7.7 - 9.3 compression, that’s just when the new forum was made.

Also I made an incorrect prediction in that post at the end, and that post was prior to me acknowledging the potential for separate ground and air BRs.


I criticized your posts, NOT YOU. I didn’t put words in your mouth, I stated how your post can easily be interpreted and asked you to clarify/fix that post.

On top of that, I respect everyone on this forum, every single person. I do not think less of anyone and never will.
Laughing at posts is not laughing at the person, and I haven’t laughed at a post in quite a long time.

I also acknowledge my poor typing decisions in response to blatant false accusations and provocations against me and have fixed that long before 2025.

On top of all that, my first ever post in this topic is me calling for BR decompression:

And the only edit was me changing an error with updated information:

I only ever edit when I MAKE MISTAKES, cause I’ll never be perfect.

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@Leinadmix9_ツ
You know, there’s this thing called precise mouse movements that prevents me from pulling max Gs in turns.
I can pull as little Gs as an F-104’s peak Gs in the R2Y2 with precise mouse movement.

If a plane is easy to get a high KDR then it’s good or OP.
If a plane is among the worst for its BR, the KDR will be lower among a consistent player’s record.

Your KDR exceeds that of J29A, Kikka, F-86, and so on. The only plane where R2Y2 is closest to, especially in KMR, is La-200 which itself is arguably under-BR’d.

Of course I think R2Y2 and MD452 are perfect examples of what 8.0 jets should be, and they’ve been invaded by Mig-15 and Sabre.

As I said previously many times, it’s better to decompress the 9.3 area than it is to ruin 6.7 and below.
I have a hard time enough trying to convince Gaijin to move P51H5NA up, I don’t need that to be impossible.

it used to have 7.0 BR and airspawn but gaijin says japan cant have nice things

And I got a 1.7:1 KDR with them when my average KDR was 0.8 at best in fighters.
They were blatantly OP that someone knowing nothing on fighters could perform really good in them.

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