R2Y2, really worth 8.0?

I always try to make sure using LOOP to against F86, you can see the acceleration performance here

Yes, it has pretty good turning, but only happens in a horizontal orientation or descending, consider it’s weight and engine, just keep climbing or make an energy trap for it, after the first round, you can find that R2Y2 may only have 400kph in dogfight.

For Meteor, I am not sure if they are compressing, you know they are hard to against F84G or SU11, even the me262C, the top speed limit their performance

And in turn it has much better engines and speed. Against the average lobotomite trying to pad their stats or whatever with the newly lowered MiG-15s and A-5 Sabre, it is more than capable of scoring a few kills.

You don’t need to follow loops, you can just do an offset 2 circle or 1 circle on the horizontal plane to meet him again on the descent.

Also, be careful about using Statshark because it has many inaccuracies, mainly with FMs

I unlocked it and I can’t belive it.
In three battles I got 5 kills and died 2 times. Those 2 times I ran out of fuel, lol.

Also killed 4 AI planes and a whole bunch of ground targets.

I think it’s probably like the Zero. It works as long as you have a team.
Others will ignore you or you evade them and make them waste energy.
Let your team do their thing and swoop in for a kill when the opportunity presents itself.

PFFFF naaaah its soooo FUN getting shot by quided missiles in slow late ww2 thing.

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wym?

Maybe Gaijin just flush them down the drain because they don’t want to balance it
(in the name of ‘unhistorical paper’ which is fair)
and players will give up about playing that. if Gaijin don’t give any concern about balancing R2Y2 anymore.

AFAIK, Wargaming ran something similar on their ‘World of Tanks’ because there were too many vehicles that they can’t even balance properly. but acts way underpowered. (Which is even worse than 'deleting because it is unhistorical paper)

For example, AMX-30, which is iconic but forever inferior to Leopard 1, or Sherman III which has worse gold ammo(no APCR) than the US counterpart in their game.

So, they decided to flush down to the drain named ‘Collectors vehicle’ instead.
Then, those vehicles are removed from TT. and giving slightest minimal attention on them.
After that, WG shifted those manpower to ‘create and sell blatantly overpowered paper tanks’ instead.

You can still access and buy them on the ‘collectors vehicle’ section.
But as long as most of them are underperforming drastically, and WG don’t care about it.
Nearly nobody but some of big fans are only played those. Untill the date i decided to quit playing it.
(not sure about the current situation about them because I quit)

So, It might be the same thing as WG did!
Gaijin is phasing out the R2Y2. R2Y2 still can accessable if you own them.
But Gaijin will concern even lesser attention to balancing them.
(As long as they are fake paper planes, we even can’t bug report them.)
Then eventually, nobody is gonna play with them.

At least, unlike WG, Gaijin found and brang proper reason to get rid of.

like 50% of planes in game are ahistorical for one reason or another, this logic doesn’t work. They (and the playerbase as well) cannot cry about the R2Y2 being ahistorical while smiling and waving at all the other massive issues the game has in this department (which they do)

Eh I meant, their reason was suited for removing R2Y2 itself.
They are nothing but fake paper plane. right?

Also, your claims seem fairer than Gaijin’s one.
We have a bunch of Frankenstein monsters in many of TT. init?

“We didn’t buy them, We didn’t use them, We didn’t even capture them. but WE NEED IT because some others mounted it on our vehicle!” kind of things.

I understand your stance about R2Y2 and the rest of the ahistorical problems.
It can be seen as a double standard. which Gaijin loves to do in every single thing.

Still, Personally. I think R2Y2 itself need to be removed from TT.
as long as it is nothing but a fake paper plane which does not exist at all.

But, still, I think ‘phasing out and not concerning any for balance it’ is different problem.
8.0 seems bit too high. just like Vampire does.

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770m/s is still a great velocity, and the velocity wasn’t the reason they went up.
General performance was, all but 1 of R2Y2’s equals are 8.0: MD452 [literally the most equal to R2Y2], Meteor, etc while being superior to most 7.7s, all 7.3s, and obviously all 7.0s.

Not only that but the rounds of R2Y2 were buffed at some point.

I like hearing your thoughts more than most forumers and feel you are very level head’ed.

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Thanks. XD

dogfighters always have higher BR, but it’s wired that Meteors are still at 7.3-7.7, even they are much better than R2Y2

For ARB, 7.7 is fine, but for the first one it might be 7.3, for GRB, all of them could be 7.3 as a good CAS/fighter in 7.3 lineup instead of kikka after gaijin shift IL28 to 7.7

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The early mk3 at 7.3 outturns the R2Y2 by a big margin but compresses a lot at higher speeds. Acceleration is a little worse, with worse top speed and roll rate.

The sea meteor at 7.3 has similar turn and much better acceleration/climb. The 7.7 one is the same but can achieve higher speeds without ripping its wings. the advantage of the R2Y2 is still the roll rate and doesn’t compress as much above 600-700kph.

Looking at the sea meteor you have a 7.3 jet that on paper has better kinematics and kinda similar dogfight performance. The R2Y2 top speed advantage isn’t very relevant because you almost never reach it unless on a dive.

8.0 is too high, although I have very good stats with the R2Y2 v3, is mostly due to low skill teams on those brackets, 7.7 would suit them better. But since Gaijin balances things by statistics, and because that vehicle is only found in japan tree, it will keep being 8.0.

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Yes, that’s why Gaijin still insists on R2Y2s at 8.0, the only reason can explain is due to the static data.

Compared to most 7.7 planes, R2Y2s is pretty normal, such as F80C or LA200(unless you are silly as someone takes the same fuel time to compare the climb rate lmao).

BR compressed just one of the reasons, considering we do have other better jets at lower or same BR, R2Y2 should be lower, for GRB, it could be even 7.3

it could be, but it absolutely demolishes the mig9 which is 7.3, I´m not against moving it down, bc it can beat mig15/f86 in certain circumstances so its ok/meh it its br.

BR placement.

Someone looks at your posts, then at your Service Record in-game and draws a logical conclusion.
You take that as an insult.
You immediately go back to your MO of making things up and accuse him of hating an entire nation and it’s people.

Bro, who hurt you?

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F-80C is overall worse than R2Y2 and MD452 btw.

Quick question: Is English your first language?

Because I am getting a strong vibe it isn’t and you only understand about 50% of what you read.