Put 190 A8-D9 to 4.7, make Tier IV FW-190 playable again

I tought A-5 was 4.7? wtf?

So how do you think A5, A8, and D9 could be in the same BR? wtf

F8 has 0 issues. Plus all current 5.0-6.0 would need to drop to 4.7 too to avoid what other German queuers are trying to get away from.

And yes, just like German ground does, US air mucks up decent balancing due to the larger numbers playing them and reducing stats.

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It’s a self-fulfilling scenario that happens thx to Gaijin broken balancing. More people play certain aircraft, because it’s so good, stats go down, BR drops, even more people play it.
Meanwhile Reeeeee.2005 is on its way to 6.0 XDDDD

Totally expected the Re2005 to drop to 5.3-5.0, but alas, it’s apparently comparable to a F2G. Meanwhile some 4.7-5.0s when flown correctly fold it over twice and then some.

It’s. So. Stupid. Lol.

Still my favorite plane though, hope they’ll fix the MM around German 6.0 and I’ll probably still fly it for the fix

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Anything with enough MG 151s to actually create reliable critical hits is required to be 6.0+ apparently. Many might be too used to being ticked by the solo mounted and come a cropper with bad flying to get hit by an Re.2005.

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That’s a big cope.

The A-5 and A-8 are both too slow and overweight. They excel at low altitude where an La-5FN or La-7 have ALL the advantages - they undoubtedly turn better, are faster at any altitude from sea level to ~6km, and since the RealShatter fix, they have comparable firepower.

The Corsair is just undertiered to hell, at 5.7 it is both maneuverable and VERY fast on top of having insane firepower.

The 190 D-9 almost evens out but at the end of the day the only advantage it has over the corsair is climb rate. It is worse in speed, maneuverability, and firepower.

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Yet USA had and still has the best performing props at the most undertiered BRs. The P-51H, objectively the best superprop in the game, is somehow at the same BR as the much, MUCH worse Ta 152C. The F4U-4B got lowered to 5.7. The F2G is arguably the best 6.0 in the game.

Meanwhile, the K-4 got an engine nerf a while back, the MG151s are some of the worst performing 20s in the game now due to drag and realshatter changes, USA air sees downtier on top of downtier every BR change for their already undertiered planes - in contrast, the much inferior Re2005 has just gone to 6.0 with the same engine as a 4.3 plane. The J7W is 6.0 despite having worse flight performance than the XP-55 at 4.3. The A6M5 is 5.0 despite having an engine comparable to the P-36G.

I play USA air too, and in the very common 6v6 games at 6.0 it’s a literal turkey shoot and with just a single functioning neuron you can wipe out the 2 poor dudes in fighters especially in something as disgusting as the F4U-4B.

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i quite enjoy the Pacific maps, player counts are much lower and you can play to your plane’s strengths way more easily.

As for your comment about the XP-50s… XP-50s at least are a very easy plane to get kills with (and one of the most OP at its BR), so this doesn’t affect them as hard as it does Ju288s which RARELY get air kills. And Air RB is pretty much a straight-up team deathmatch.

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Ain’t that the truth…

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My ass.

Play 5.7 and this is often what you’re up against.

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And still they lose…

Really must be their underperforming planes, difficult to fight people when you’re 120-160 kph faster at any altitude, must turnfight instead… gotta keep that BR in check

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It’s a very handheld tier, I played US up to post war jets and it feels like i’m playing against bot, F4U-4B is so OP with how effective the gun and engine is against 109 and 190 it isn’t even funny.

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Lol love the combination of “NO HANDHOLD” and the current state of 6.0 air.

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hahahahhahahahaha what a load of absolute bullshit. Funny read tho. You do standup comedy? when is your next show?

Transparent as a sheet of glass.

Then by all means, point out exactly the parts where i’m wrong.

german 20mm worst performing and TA152 being shit. I see people like you everyday. Unless you have the best vehicle at any br – its unfair. Unless your stomping with ease - (like germany used to) its unfair.

But on the other hand if your the one with all the advantage, its fair. give me a break. German 20mm is awesome - not as good as used to be - however does it need to be op to be considered worthwhile?

Secondly TA152 gets airspawn it doesn not deserve and it outruns most aircraft at all altitudes. - or should it have both best guns, airspawn and near best top speed? If not its unfair right? Give me a break, play other nations mate, maybe give you some perspective. And i dont mean only play meta.

I also wish i was shit and could rely on OP aircraft to counteract my skill deficiency and pretend i am not crap. - - - Actually no i dont. But you carry on pretending, it must be so unfair for you, i will pray for you tonight so that you can rely on meta and get kills because you cannot any other way, then pretend the meta doesnt exist and its just you that is great and has been unfairly treated. :)

If a plane is that much spammed as the F2G, maybe they should just up its BR for once.

I also don’t get why they nerfed the s… out of the MG151, upped the BR of the Ta-152 and nerfed the 109 K4 engine output. They scare away more and more german players from this 6.X BR bracket. The only players left are SL grinding bots in their Ju-288, while everyone else is avoiding this allied super prop spam and play below 5.0 or above 6.7.

Now they added a 500kg bomb to the K4 (only ingame 109 which got its removed 500kg bomb back), cause they probably see that they did a nerf too much. Wouldn’t have expected this, after they removed the 500kg bombs from all 109’s some years ago.

But even that won’t save this, I guess its soon US vs US matchmaking as it is in top tier. Even with its pre nerf engine settings the K4, as highest BRed 109, was inferior. Now its a flying joke. Especially since the 151 shells have that much drag that you can’t hit anything except for close range targets, while cal50 or AN/M2 snipe you out of the sky from a km away.

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With recent gigabuff to every other 20mm (Type 99Mk 2 rips.Fw 190 F8 wing with a single hit to the wingroot, single hits remove tails from P-47D28 and M2/M3, Hispano, Shvak and Ho-5 are not much weaker), MG151/20 is by far the worst 20mm. By far, because it’s the only one with real-life ballistics, which translates into way worse performance compared to Shvak and Ho-5, even though both should bleed speed just as badly - because for every csnnon without real life ballistic data, gaijin uses “absolutely best case scenario”.
Similar thing with MK108/103’s streamlined m-geschoss with tracer. It bleeds speed worse than almost any other 30mm.

Anyway, Fw 190F8 is outgunned by A6M5 nowadays. A6M5 needs 1 hit to down F8. F8 needs to land several shells to end the fight.
To add insult to injury, MG151/20 got its ROF heavily nerfed just for the fun of it.

Oh and remember when Fw 190 F8 was a “tough” plane. It went from “tough” to “single 20mm hit to the wing 80cm from the fuselage rips the entire wing off”, “single hit to the tail removes the tail”. Single shell to the wingroot instakills the engine and makes the wingroot black.
In other words - there are no longer sturdy planes in game, because everything but some bombers/jets disintegrates almost instantly, unless you’re firing MG151/20, then some patience is needed.

In such conditions Fw 190 series planes should go down in BR by a lot.

Oh and lets not f9rget Fw 190 A5 new flight models, which turned them into 4.0 planes at best with how horribly they handle.

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No. The ONLY fix is to allow Germany on both teams.

Why heavily? Wasn’t it always 700 RPM or at most 750? It’s also in the manual for the gun…