It was 750, went down to 700. I’ve seen values higher than 750. Anyway, as usual, worst case scenario for Germany.
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K-4 engine output was nerfed?
That was the dumbest prop change I ever saw. They added the U14, which people were happy about, but it had worse elevator because it was smaller iirc. So instead of leaving it alone, we now must nerf the 190 A-5 FMs on the ones that have a large enough elevator. The A-5 was my favorite prop for a long time, they ruined it. Absolutely incredible.
I don’t think the A-8/D9 should go down so much as gaijin should return the gun damage from before realsh!tter and call it a day. As long as hispanos work and shvak does decent (but not OP) damage, it’s fine.
Edit: And we need to recruit all the BI players to killing 288 players before they get their first drop off.
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what are you smoking? german 20mm worst??? gimme a break lol
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0 arguments. Congratulatioms, you’ve just wasted a minute of my life. Only MG FF/FFM and Type.99 Mk1 are worse, but these are early war low velocity models. Among “normal” 20mm cannons MG151/20 is by far the worst right now, the only saving grace is high ammo count. Ballistics are by far the worst, damage per shell is not better than Shvak or Ho-5 - both do more damage to the module they hit directly, but a bit less fragments damage, but the thing is - MG151/20 requires about 4 HE hits to take out P-47’s wing, and you only have 66% HE in the best belt. Meanwhile Shvak or Ho-5 will do the same in 2, Type 99 Mk 2 will do that in 1 pretty often, and ROF only slightly better than Mk II Hispano, Type 99 Mk 2 has slower RoF but it 1-shots people from 800m away, Ho-5 and Shvak fire much faster which also translates into super short time to kill.
Edit: post flagged by trolls
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*this is after I just got done with a session playing 6.7 japan ground with the 5.7 J2M3 as my SPAA, giving a guaranteed full uptier to my already overtiered plane and still doing extremely well with a few of those games with 5 air kills in GROUND RB lmao
They aren’t. They got the worst ballistics (which they’ve had for a while now since the drag changes) and now they’re either matched out outpaced in damage output by other 20mm, namely AN/M3s.
Its climbrate is worse than some 4.0 fighters. Without the airspawn it wouldn’t be able to reach high altitudes where it belongs, plus it was designed as an interceptor and those get airspawns. Other fighters like the 109 K4 or P-51H have much better climb rates and don’t need an airspawn.
Its top speed is at 10km altitude, at sea level its gonna do about 580kph - this is stupidly slow and is about the same speed an F6F-5 is gonna reach in the same conditions, and slower than the 2.7 F4U-1A Corsair.
In other words, it’s slower than every US fighter it can meet, which by now are happily going past 650kph at sea level - the F2G will do 670kph, 1B Bearcat about 665kph, 4B Corsair 660kph, and P-51H at 660kph too, but with 100% radiators. It will almost reach 680kph if you close them for an all-out sprint.
But hey, USA fighters are known for being fast. Let’s look at other nations, aircraft around the 152 H’s BR, and their sea level top speeds.
Russia’s La9 does 640kph, the popular Yak3 VK107 does 620kph. Yak3U does 630kph. You’d have to go down all the way to 4.0 to find the slower Yak9K, and 3.7 for the La5FN.
Britain - the Spitfires are actually slower than the 152H (just barely) with the upside of turning better. Still, the LF Mk9, also extremely popular, is faster at 585kph. Typhoons are faster from the MkIb/L (605kph), all Tempests are faster (630 for MkV, 671 for MkII).
Even the japanese can go this fast - the Ki84s all max out at exactly 580kph at sea level. The J6K will outspeed it at 588kph. Everything else is shit out of luck for catching up or not worth playing, but they also have much better turn performance.
Plus, most combat happens at low altitude nowadays. A few players climb, but soon enough they’ll find themselves below 3km where the 152H hates being.
I have, and I barely even touch germany air nowadays. It’s all a big sea of boring planes not worth flying out.
I earned a free Ace crew for the Fw190 A8, arguably the worst performing 190 BR for BR. I regularly play the J2M3 and N1K1-J which are known for being overtiered. I earned an Ace crew for the N1K2-Ja, which is also known for being an “overtiered struggle bus” - not my words, though they fit perfectly. I regularly fly the P-40E which I hear so many complain about. I’m close to getting free Ace crews in many other overtiered planes, in addition to the ones I’ve forgotten about.
Want to know what I’m not earning free Ace crews in and flying out regularly? The P-39N, the P-51C, the F2G, the F4U-4B. None of these planes are fun to me because they all play the game for you. You’re faster than anyone else, you have more than enough firepower to take out anyone that gets in front of you, you never have to take a fight if you don’t want to take it.
They’re boring, they don’t fit my playstyle, they’re too easy to play. I’d rather fly the J2M3 from earlier, because at least when one of these planes mentioned above decides to turnfight me, I’ll get a damn good laugh while I shoot them out of the sky.
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Due to using WTRTI regularly I noticed the change, before it would only drop below ~1900hp at 5800m (its old critical altitude), now it’s much earlier and by that altitude IIRC you’re in the 1800s.
Plus, they have something fucky going on with engine rev up time, shared by the J2M5 too. Extremely noticeable if you play the J2M3 and J2M5 back to back, or any of the 109 Es (E-4 especially due to higher engine output) and an F-1 or later. Takes way longer to get going when you’re standing still.
I’m not sure if this impacts them in flight or if just during takeoff, I don’t care enough to find out.
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They should add these:
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That would create the same problem as with the U14, the only viable torpedo option in the whole german TT yet set behind a paywall despite the suggestion and poll for it said it should be a TT vehicle. Another fix for german CAS would be to use a better mixture of explosives as the current one is a pre-/early war while later ones were far more potent. Fun fact someone made several suggestions to change the mixtures and all but one were closed without any reason iirc.
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I just wanted you to see this :P
Actually it’s the same for all defensive MG 151/20.
I think that Gaijin tried to do the same as they did with the ShVAKs and Berezin B-20S and B-20M.
Where synchronized guns have 750 RPM and free firing guns 800, except that all fixed MG 151/20 have 700 and not just the synchronized versions.
But who knows the actual synchronized RoF of guns anyway :P
Edit: They decreased the RoF of synchroniszed ShVAKs to 720 RPM
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Same can be said for the 190’s you named. What’s your point?
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They would be completely unusable at 5.7.
F4U-4B, Yak-3U, I-225, Spitfire LF Mk9, J2M2, J2M3, … The Fw-190D9 has no chance of winning a fight against any of those planes if they aren’t flown by total retards.
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I made that post nearly a year ago…
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Has anything changed about their BRs since then?
other than the J2M2 going up a giant amount, I don’t know. LF Mk9 is the same at least, don’t know about the other planes you listed.
The 190 used to only face it in a downtier now it can see it every game. Doesn’t really change much when the M3 does basically the same but a bit worse.
d9 is 5.7 material, is you crazy?
ShVAK on two deals better results than an-m1 on four and definitely better than mg151 on four. You need the enemy to be completely stalled out and the most you get is severe damage.