Potential changes to rank 4&5 France

[An_Pigeon]

Needs must but still shows the point doesnt it 😂

[Chocolate_Pasta]

AMX50(TOA100) and Lorraine are 100% overvalued, comparing to AMX50Surb or Somua, they needs to be 7.3, same for Char 25t, consider we have object 906 with STAB and heat, I have no idea why Char 25t could be 8.0.

[Normandy_Corsair]

@An_Pigeon

you use tanks which are a cut above the rest for thier BRs

List them?

@An_Pigeon

the tanks that aren’t like that, and are normal /balance for their br you aren’t even near 2.0kds

List?

@An_Pigeon

I dont have a grudge, don’t let yourself think you’re that important

You clearly do.

[Normandy_Corsair]

@An_Pigeon

went n watched his replays, dudes a stat padder

This guy is straight up lying about watching replays/checking stats. He doesn’t even know my in game name currently as far as I know. Actual weirdo.

[Normandy_Corsair]

@An_Pigeon

his latest GRBmatch he dies to a type 90 n just leaves.

I HAVEN’T PLAYED GRB IN DAYS if not A WEEK+

The last MANY DOZENS of my replays are all AIR REPLAYS

You are LYING.

@Caernarvon02

Allnationenjoyer was being himself higher in the thread and was arguing with Mademoiselle, a hardcore french main

Who the f* cares if somebody is a french main? I also play the tree lmao

[中国杀手击打大师]

the AMX M4 shouldnt be 7.0, there I said it.

Now pull up my battle replays and records, im waiting buddy.

[中国杀手击打大师]

I’d not worry about these guys, they have almost as much game knowledge as some squadron leaders, that is to say that they got none.

I don’t know why little bro is pulling some false battle records out of his ass to try and paint you as a bad person/player.

[PacketlossRedux]

AMX M4 and AMX 13 br changes were a mistake. They should go back to 6.7.

• The EBR 1954. can’t even reach its supposed strongpoint speed offroad, and on many maps, tracked vehicles maintain a higher average speed, thus fair better. this also should go back to 6.7

[中国杀手击打大师]

There isn’t even one safe argument where its fair to put AMX M4 at 7.0, T-44-100 is at 7.0 for USSR, it has similar pen, twice as long reload BUT better mobility, APHEBC! shell, a 12.7mm MG, twice as much armor in most points of the tank, AND it moves faster than the AMX M4.

The AMX-13 is also obvious ragebait or mental disability from gaijin, because in what world is it fair for AMX-13 to be the same BR as a T-92 light tank, the T-92 gets APDS, same speed, only slightly less armor which doesnt matter for a light tank, lower profile, ONE more crew member, a 12.7mm MG, aswell as a stabilizer. This is just ridiculous.

[Lichdragon_Fortysnacks]

Mostly agree but buffing the APDS pen on the 20mm can’t happen because that ammo is prolific across many guns in many nations and randomly boosting its stats for one tank is a dangerous precedent. If you have any proof the gun achieved a higher muzzle velocity or something with that same ammo, you’re free to present it.

[An_Pigeon]

Paint him as a bad person? Where he bounces is making false claims on his stats initially.

Then i found his account aka Normandy corsair.

So in what way are they false? You’re jumping into the middle of something armed with zero information defending someone, who im assuming is a friend.

that is the only account with that name

And checked his stats

@中国杀手击打大师

the AMX M4 shouldnt be 7.0, there I said it.

Now pull up my battle replays and records, im waiting buddy.

I dont need to.

You’ve not annoyed me the same as he did.

Now crawl away.

Even me an absolute average player have managed in an unspaded amx m4 have managed a 2.0 kd.

[An_Pigeon]

@AllNationEnjoyer

This guy is straight up lying about watching replays/checking stats. He doesn’t even know my in game name currently as far as I know. Actual weirdo.

Normandy corsair.

[An_Pigeon]

@AllNationEnjoyer

I HAVEN’T PLAYED GRB IN DAYS if not A WEEK+

The last MANY DOZENS of my replays are all AIR REPLAYS

You are LYING.

The last grb match you played you used the M1 abrams, on flanders field.

Died to two type 90s blasting upu

Then left.

I got your name, and i watched your grb replays.

youve played ARB for weeks now im aware i had to actively scroll back to find your grb games.

No ones questioning your capabilities of arb, so it doesn’t matter ij the slightest

[中国杀手击打大师]

You do know that GRB replays expire after 1 month or after an update, right?

[中国杀手击打大师]

@An_Pigeon

Paint him as a bad person? Where he bounces is making false claims on his stats initially.

Then i found his account aka Normandy corsair.

So in what way are they false? You’re jumping into the middle of something armed with zero information defending someone, who im assuming is a friend.

that is the only account with that name

And checked his stats

@中国杀手击打大师

the AMX M4 shouldnt be 7.0, there I said it.

Now pull up my battle replays and records, im waiting buddy.

I dont need to.

You’ve not annoyed me the same as he did.

Now crawl away.

Even me an absolute average player have managed in an unspaded amx m4 have managed a 2.0 kd.

Woah what a nice person! I wonder how many friends he has!
Oh wait!
Anyway whats your argument for AMX M4 being in 7.0?
I named multiple points of why it shouldnt be there as it has less armor than tanks of both 6.7 and 7.0 BR, less mobility, and less survivability.
You’ve yet to name one good quality of the AMX M4, and if you name the “penetration” we’ll see something akin to a meltdown from you on how OP france is.

[An_Pigeon]

You do realise if you put his name in the replay search and scroll past the arb matches there are his games of grb there ?
From like 3 weeks ago.
If that.
EDIT: he last played GRB on the 11th of may, so a week ago so yeah this clips are there. He ODLs aka stat pads.

Thats the first time I’ve heard in 5/6 years they arent there after a month.
And the website with replay information doesn’t state anythinf either.

So unless theres a bloody ghost in tbe machine, i watched his replay.

There is no other player with his name. So yeah

Woah what a nice person! I wonder how many friends he has!
Oh wait!
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He’s hardly nice to people on here is he 😂 unless you fervently agree with him.

[An_Pigeon]

@中国杀手击打大师

Anyway whats your argument for AMX M4 being in 7.0?
I named multiple points of why it shouldnt be there as it has less armor than tanks of both 6.7 and 7.0 BR, less mobility, and less survivability.
You’ve yet to name one good quality of the AMX M4, and if you name the “penetration” we’ll see something akin to a meltdown from you on how OP france is.

• 1 auto loader
• 2 combination of okay armour with decent mobility
• while no APHE it still has a good reliable solid shot that can go through the front of , I think any 6.7 tanks.
• great gun handling
• decent round not great or bad.

EDIT : Just a caveat BTW, the T-44-100 may be faster in a straight line, but it has more than 6 less HP/PT which combine with its weight means its not more mobile, the AMX m4 is faster than it to its top speed for example.

@中国杀手击打大师

less mobility, and less survivability.

Less mobility than the T-44-100 and armour, better reload, more gun depression, faster turret traverse rate. as well as a substantially faster reload.
however I have seen some folks on about russian bias say T-44-100 should be 7.3 at this point. However that I dont have an opinion on.

@中国杀手击打大师

I named multiple points of why it shouldnt be there as it has less armor than tanks of both 6.7

What 6.7 medium tank has the armour and mobility combination the AMX m4 does? It’s armour isn’t something incredibly but it’s still there it can save it from 90MM aphe, and the likes of those rounds frontally.
OFC not if they take the time to aim, however amx M4 has substantially better gun handling than most tanks at that aBR so its more likely to get the first shot off.

So yeah there’s myriad of reasons why it moved up in BR mate. Acting like there isn’t says a lot.

[中国杀手击打大师]

1. Autoloader is a nuisance more than help, reffer to T-44-100 for proof.
2. It has no armor, what are you on? The mobility is subpar for its current BR (20km/h less speed than most vehicles that have more armor)
3. Solid shot that has 11.76kg shell, ever heard of volumetric calc failures? They only happen with AP/APC/APCBC shells due to angle of attack, server not being able to process a shot etc.
4. The gun handles very poorly on stop shot attacks which are about 40% of all your shots.
5. its APCBC with no HE filler, reffer to T-44-100 Which is a TECH TREE VEHICLE if you need proof that its bad.

[中国杀手击打大师]

Oooh name a 6.7 tank that is better than AMX M4? sure!
6.7
M26
T-44
ST-A3
M26A1(ITALY)
M26(FRANCE)
Alongside 6.0 and 6.3…
M-51
Centurion MK 1
Charioteer Mk VII
Hell, even the light tanks are better than it xD

[中国杀手击打大师]

To add onto this, the Charioteer has a similar gun with similar mobility but more frontal armor than the AMX M4 lmao, and it sits at 6.0-6.3 comfortably.