Woah what a nice person! I wonder how many friends he has!
Oh wait!
Anyway whats your argument for AMX M4 being in 7.0?
I named multiple points of why it shouldnt be there as it has less armor than tanks of both 6.7 and 7.0 BR, less mobility, and less survivability.
You’ve yet to name one good quality of the AMX M4, and if you name the “penetration” we’ll see something akin to a meltdown from you on how OP france is.
You do realise if you put his name in the replay search and scroll past the arb matches there are his games of grb there ?
From like 3 weeks ago.
If that.
EDIT: he last played GRB on the 11th of may, so a week ago so yeah this clips are there. He ODLs aka stat pads.
Thats the first time I’ve heard in 5/6 years they arent there after a month.
And the website with replay information doesn’t state anythinf either.
So unless theres a bloody ghost in tbe machine, i watched his replay.
There is no other player with his name. So yeah
Woah what a nice person! I wonder how many friends he has!
Oh wait!
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He’s hardly nice to people on here is he 😂 unless you fervently agree with him.
while no APHE it still has a good reliable solid shot that can go through the front of , I think any 6.7 tanks.
great gun handling
decent round not great or bad.
EDIT : Just a caveat BTW, the T-44-100 may be faster in a straight line, but it has more than 6 less HP/PT which combine with its weight means its not more mobile, the AMX m4 is faster than it to its top speed for example.
Less mobility than the T-44-100 and armour, better reload, more gun depression, faster turret traverse rate. as well as a substantially faster reload.
however I have seen some folks on about russian bias say T-44-100 should be 7.3 at this point. However that I dont have an opinion on.
What 6.7 medium tank has the armour and mobility combination the AMX m4 does? It’s armour isn’t something incredibly but it’s still there it can save it from 90MM aphe, and the likes of those rounds frontally.
OFC not if they take the time to aim, however amx M4 has substantially better gun handling than most tanks at that aBR so its more likely to get the first shot off.
So yeah there’s myriad of reasons why it moved up in BR mate. Acting like there isn’t says a lot.
Autoloader is a nuisance more than help, reffer to T-44-100 for proof.
It has no armor, what are you on? The mobility is subpar for its current BR (20km/h less speed than most vehicles that have more armor)
Solid shot that has 11.76kg shell, ever heard of volumetric calc failures? They only happen with AP/APC/APCBC shells due to angle of attack, server not being able to process a shot etc.
The gun handles very poorly on stop shot attacks which are about 40% of all your shots.
its APCBC with no HE filler, reffer to T-44-100 Which is a TECH TREE VEHICLE if you need proof that its bad.
Oooh name a 6.7 tank that is better than AMX M4? sure!
6.7
M26
T-44
ST-A3
M26A1(ITALY)
M26(FRANCE)
Alongside 6.0 and 6.3…
M-51
Centurion MK 1
Charioteer Mk VII
Hell, even the light tanks are better than it xD
To add onto this, the Charioteer has a similar gun with similar mobility but more frontal armor than the AMX M4 lmao, and it sits at 6.0-6.3 comfortably.
Sta 3 has a better gun, sure, but lacks any form of protection at all as well as is pretty tall, and not exceptionally mobile
It has no gun depression, comparable mobility, worse turret traverse and a worse reload.
still rockin the 17 pounder gun found at what? 4.7 for britain on the firefly? while it foes get APDS that APDS can barely damage a panther frontally while the amx M4 can cut clean through it.
As well as this the APDS for the 17 pounder has less post pen damage, ( beleive its been bug reported )
centurion also has piss poor mobility in comparisson.
you stated the M26 3 times, so you are kinda struggling to find stuff here then.
there isn’t much actively better than it all of those sacrifice something to try catch up with it.
The charioteer armour is not better than the amx M4 ive no idea where you pulled that from, the big ol box turret is a one tap to even 4.0 tanks …´
the gun is arguably better as its the larger 20 pounder found on the 7.7 Centurion Mk3 , however the charioteer, has no gun depression also it **has less armour than the amx M4 where on gods earth did you get it has more from? **
EDIT you’re level 51 and have never used any of the tanks that are in discussion.
hell cant even state correctly the armour capacity in a comparisson.
The AMX M4 has 40mm frontal armour while the Charioteer has 64mm frontal armour (hull).
The turret is only 10mm difference where the charioteer has less armor.
Additionally, Cent Mk I is at 6.0 with a shell that has 180mm of pen, it has way better armor and 20km/h slower mobility than AMX M4, It’s 1.0 BR lower but has better stats overall at thunderskill.
1 im not angry at you at all. You are just stating stuff that is factually incorrect.
2 France is not OP, the AMX m4 is good for its BR thats all. Hence why it moved up.
3 the AMX M4 which is the tank we are talking about has a frontal hull armour of 80MM at about a 45 degree slope, Charioteer has a flat 64 which is worse
4 The charioteer turret has 30mm flat protection while amx M4 sits at 85 MM again sloped at near 45 degrees. However does have the turret ring weakness.
Centurion Mk1 has :
an APDS round with over 269 flat pen
It’s mobility is a huge and I mean huge crutch it is extremely sluggish.
also has worse hull armour than the amx M4.
Centurion is also mounting the 17pounder, which is a 76MM roughly cannon, while the amx M4 has a 100MM which has substantially better post pen damage.
The centurion Mk1 is perfect for experienced players as they can quite effectively do well with it.
EDIT: lastly BTW, both thunderskill and statshark aren’t really accurate at all. most 3rd party sites aren’t, they do not encompass most of hte playerbase.