And Britain has enough vehicles to be a fully independent five-line domestic tree, we didn’t need one sub-tree, let alone a second.
India as a confirmed sub-tree was a mistake. If they want to add unique Indian vehicles into the game as event/battle pass rewards, and see Britain as the best place for them, thats one thing, but shoving unneeded soviet copy paste into already bloated areas of the tree was an extremely dumb decision.
Britain has over 600 ground and air vehicles? Since when?
No nation can fill their tech tree, not even USA and USSR, the two most productive military vehicle producers on the planet can get near the 680+ vehicle limit of tech trees.
The only copy-paste are 2 SPAA systems, both of which are foldered.
Mate we had that many ships in our navy at once.
Multiple variants of every testbed, prototype, production, and imported tank and plane would also very, very easily exceed 600 vehicles, but that is completely irrelevant to the next 20 years of war thunder anyway and is an extremely facetious argument to attempt to make.
Looks like the early stages of Finland but less obtainable and much much boring
“Finland”
When referring to India, I do not include the British Raj because that is obviously British territory.
I am mostly referring to India post-Indo-Pakistani wars. After this point, India becomes a bit of a mix between Soviet and NATO technologies, which I don’t feel is suited for Britain.
This is what our air tree could look like with just SA as a sub-TT
and what have we gotten from India so far?
A mig-21 premium that wasnt needed. (and has essentially been replaced by the Canadian F-18) and Id have prefered a Saudi Tornado F3 (or even GR1) as a premium over a Mig-21
A Jag that we could have gotten anyway and Id still prefer to have the Jag GR3A
HF-24 from what i’ve heard is pretty bad and kinda BS it gets airspawn when the Buc S1 doesnt. But we’ve already got the Hunter to fullfill the same role
suffice to say. We dont need India for air
And look at ground.
T-90 should have been the Jordanian Challenger Falcon
Vickers Mk1 is just an export vehicle. No Sub-TT needed
Strela and OSA weren’t needed at all, especially given the outstanding buffs for Stormer HVM and the various other SPAAs we could have and should have for that BR range like the Verdi-2 or a multi-vehicle variant of the Rapier.
So India has yet to add any value to ground either.
They are just using it as an easy way to splap filler vehicles to get out of fixing existing ones. 100% convinced that we got a T-90 instead of CR1 fixes
And most importantly…why add Singapore in the first place to anyone…like at all?
UK doesn’t need Singapore as a Subtree. Japan makes absolutely zero sense.
China wouldn’t need it if Gaijin finally fixed Chinas own Vehicles and added more of their domestic Vehicles instead of always the Copy+Paste / Export-Slop and when they do get domestic Vehicles its nerfed to the Ground and refused to be fixed/buffed by Gaijin even through they accept the Reports on it (some already two years old)…and then say oh China needs a Subtree…wat?
Id like the hunter. But we dont need the Sub-TT for that.
as for the rest of it. Yeah I agree. I wish Gaijin focused more on native additions and fixes than band-aiding a TT with a Sub-TT
Please keep things respectful. Insulting the worth of someone’s tech tree will ultimately get this post shut down. It’s also not relevant.
That’s different vehicles, not the same vehicle.
@Morvran
All of those vehicles you want will still come.
Sub-trees do not replace things, they augment.
Do they?
So far they have only replaced or heavily delayed (Scimitar and Fox should have come years and years ago)
I still dont see:
Abbot
Scorpion
Saladin
Ajax
Ferret
Sexton
etc etc etc. There are dozens upon dozens of vehicles im not expecting anytime soon because we already have SA vehicles for the same BR/Role.
and we are still waiting for a full Challenger 1/2 Overhaul but im expecting to see Arjun any day now
Sub trees delay or completely prevent equivalent domestic vehicles from coming due to the space they occupy in the tree.
The British tree will never have a domestic light tank line because of the addition of South Africa, and iconic and much-requested light tanks like the Scorpion 90s, Saladin 90s, Simba 90s, Stormer LPXV, as well as every single one of our WW2 armoured car (except the dingo) are still nowhere to be seen in the tech tree, because their place in the tree has been occupied by SA vehicles.
If those vehicles arrived tomorrow they’d still be 5 years late, because of the SA sub tree.
Opposite of reality post spotted. 0/10 ragebait.
Sub-trees do not do that. The only thing that can “delay” vehicles is research hurdles.
The only thing that can “prevent” vehicles is the vehicle not existing in combat capability [see Object 640].
The BR system means nothing is late.
The vehicles will come when ready.
I don’t know why people who voted for Singapore not to be added into China then votes for it to be added into Japan…Japan makes no sense for Singapore to be in.
China and Singapore at least have some relation due to both being ethnic Han Chinese and Singapore and their former Leader Lee Kuan Yew having been a major influence on China after Mao’s Death and their former representative to the UN also being one of the most outspoken Pro-China Authors and ‘Influencers’ Online.
With Japan they have absolutely nothing to do. This just shows people care less about the addition making historic, geographic, cultural or whatever sense but more so that they just don’t want it into Chinas Tree for no Reason.
Theres only two Trees where a Singapore Subtree makes sense and that being UK and China.
The UK due to the colonial History and Singapore being part of the Commonwealth however might as well then argue Bangladesh could be in UK Tree. The Commonwealth is just an irrelevant colonial Hangover nowadays and symbolic at best for most of its Members with many not even liking the UK, each other or their colonial History (which wasn’t great for anyone but the UK).
(I editet the Post a bit…)
Well they would have already been ready and added if Gaijin didn’t focused on adding the Subtrees Vehicles first…
Thank you. The last post someone made about this topic got just a tiny bit out of hand and immediately was nuked.
That’s not how research and information availability works.
BM Oplot was originally made prior to 2021 for War Thunder; more information has come out about the vehicle since then, and the implementation now is more accurate despite having been put off until a more tactful tech tree could get it.
Not only that, but if you’re in talks with a company to purchase information about vehicles, the negotiations can stall or otherwise take a while.
You have to remember that Gaijin often picks a BR first, then finds a vehicle they think will fit that BR.
Of course they also pick vehicles and BRs at the same time as well.
This
Team Neutrals
no,sigapore is still independent,at monment just gaijin has this idea,china dont have sigapore car.I think singapore should exist in ASEAN