Please Gaijin, help Red Team

Ok lets test this premise.

Your highest tier Russian plane is the MiG-23ML and you have a 1.3 KD vs 1.96 in your most played US plane.

Even if you want to compare F4S vs MiG-23ML…that is 1.1 KD vs 1.3 KD. And the MiG-23ML is a better aircraft than the F4S for the past year due to multi-pathing. Why is your premise not even true when looking at your own stats? You should have a 2.2 KD in the MiG-23ML.

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Totally, I remember F-16 equivalent to Mig29, after that Mig29 FM got nerfed, F-16 RWR was improved, and the difference is huge now.

Spading the German Mig29 without Fox 1 those days was much easier than spading the USSR Mig29 last week with Fox 1s

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We can do a custom 1 v 1 again if you want.

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Su-27 “selfspike” is mostly made up and the actual information on it is twisted.

Manual states that it exist and accurate enough, to implement that in game

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I really hate it but this is kind of true. There’s just more western countries in the world than eastern countries, moreso if they separate the planes by “origin” like I think they should (team based on planes, not based on country). Really the only way to effectively counter this is by introducing more countries that would be on REDFOR, like India, Iran/Iraq, Yugoslavia (and/or the Balkans in general), etc. Without that, in sim specifically, BLUFOR will always have a numbers advantage due to the simple fact that more people play those countries.
But then you also run into the problem that, at the current top tier at least, most countries (irl) trend towards western equipment (BLU) instead of eastern equipment (RED). So then you’d run into the same issue again unless you can pull some switch or something.
Personally I think they should do it the way the DCS PvP servers do it, with some BLU aircraft on the RED team but they’re still there as a numbers boost.

The manual is for the Su-27SK, which is an export variant with degraded electronic suites. The RWR operations cycle only takes information in between radar pulses of the host aircraft. The only real cases of this happening were observed during the British v. German mock BVR combat, where it was found by mechanics that the German MiG-29’s had severed radar links due to insufficient maintenance. The synchro unit does not allow the RWR to look for radar pulses whilst the Su-27’s/MiG-29’s radar operates. As all vehicles in game are programmed to be in perfect condition, it means that the aircraft cannot self spike.

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For adding insult to the injury, in 13.0 matches, people are creating lobbies with 6 countries against 4, so team B can’t have grippen, neither AV-8B plus, to make the difference even bigger !!!

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but Su-27SK was the version ordered by China before they started making the J-11, right? Or were the first J-11s (not the J-11As) just renamed Su-27SKs?

Are you sure about that in 27SK was changes of RWR and Radar from regular 27S? Theres no source of that were changes

Mainly cause i played the Mig-23 the least…and it is conpletely different in how to fly it conpared to f-4’s and F-16

The MiG-23ML has been basically the best rate fighter in its bracket up until the patch where its flight model was changed.

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It still best, at least if you fighting not toncat/other “modern” planes.
Btw, it overperforming now

Mig-19pt. Clearly unbeatable without AIM-9L or PD missiles.
RED team mostly OK.

uFo-16A can beat Su-27 in dogfight, but the others….
0 chances. Su-27 clearly stronger in 1 vs 1 than any AMRAAM carrier.Might have problems against Mirage2000-5F (strongest plane in sim) and JAS-39

Why do I have to play MiG-29 to say anything about it? This attitude kills any debate, you’re just hiding behind “you don’t know my pain”.

I don’t have to put my hand in the fire to know it will burn me.

No, I even said AV-8B Plus should be higher in BR. I’m just showing examples on the red side, that they have undertiered planes too. He was the one who made it seem like red side has only overtiered planes.

It’s much closer in performance to F-4J, than F-4E. F-4J is a brick. At top tier you scream about flight models, but here the flight model doesn’t matter for you. I know MiG-23’s flight model has been nerfed, but only because it was cracked before and unrealistic.

You would be flabbergasted if you check that whenever any US player complain about the M1 tank series modeling, all they get is ‘skill issue’ as an answer, they also struggle with winrates as well.

I’ll keep a stack with this: if they suffer in ground, you suffer in air.
But if they do have a skill issue, well you redfor also do in air…

F-5E and F-5C are also over-performing and I would put money on the F5E winning the dogfight against the current MiG-23ML flight model.

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You’ve never played anything other than US and some auction model vehicles. How can you say what is more powerful and what is not?
In ASB, the red side is always in the minority because no one wants to sacrifice themselves and “feed” the blue side. The blues have better situational awareness, better radars, overbuffed fly-by-wire model (until they introduced normal Fly-by-Wire implementation into the game), now the blues have the best ARH missiles, the best (within the mode) IR missiles. It’s unplayable. Because even a complete 0 in SB can take a flight on f16s and make more frags than an experienced player on Su-27/Mig-29smt.

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It’s supposed to win such a dogfight, F-5E is a pure dogfighter.

F-5E has only 2 AIM-9Js, relatively large ammo capacity and a shitty radar used only for radar gunsight. MiG-23ML is a much bigger aircraft, MUCH faster aircraft, can carry 2 R-24R/Ts, which I’ve heard are really good, and 4 R-60Ms, which are superior to AIM-9Js.

What’s so hard to understand about asymmetrical gameplay. One plane is better at one thing and the other at the other thing.

I gotta agree with unknown here, Ive seen you in a game, i think i could beat you in a 1v1

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