Terrain masking has been fun in the tornado to evade the Su27/J11 wall
100% agree.
Also, ad others are saying, flat maps are boring. Personally my favs are Spain and Canyon
Agreed.
I love Afghanistan too, and I really hope they make Pyrenees into a larger EC map
Yes. I would also like to see the island city (the one with the TUNNEL!!!) and the new volcanic map. They look gorgeous and would be great to play. Also, they should make every old map larger by default when playing from 9.7 and above…whenever I see a 12.3 in Smolensk or Tunisia I immediately assume it’s a farming map filled with bots. No person wants to play in a map where you cna be fired at from airfield to airfield.
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My primary gripe with top tier is that I mainly see massive furballs and nobody playing the objectives, but when I start playing the objective easily half the enemy is going to swarm me for the kill and then leave the area. In props and early jets people spread out and play the objectives, but at 11 - 12 I rarely see anyone play objectives. I enjoyed playing my F16C until I only saw lobbies like this and just went back to playing low tier or Vietnam era jets.
Playing objective at top tier is impossible due to the radar and missiles available at that tier. Mind that stuff like a-10 or su25 were actually intended for use after having obtained air superiority. Imho the best br to play cas is between 9.7 to 11.0
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Yeah, its a real shame. I have been able to do some CAS in the Gr7, but you really need to be fast and smart with how you do it. For that, I think they just need to turn off the killfeed. at least for AI kills. So you dont broadcast your location to the world.
For interdictors (Tornado IDS, F-111, etc) then they just need to add more maps that have terrain, valleys, hills, etc that you can hide behind and finish their defensive aids. Systems like large chaff pools and ECM would help hugely.
I think it is time though, for either smaller teams or bigger maps. Even in the massive size that is EC, 16 vs 16 is too dense
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Kill feed suppose to be only for killer and victim. Not for whole players…
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denmark has carriers, its the only air sim match i play, because you can easily find something to target.
More mountains would indeed be good. Doesn’t have to be the Himalayas; something like Wales, Scottish highlands would be high enough (3-4000 ft). An EC version of the Norway map would be great: mountains, fjords, valleys and ocean for carriers. The front line could be set for a time during the Norway campaign (allies to north, axis in the south) rather than during the occupation when the allies wouldn’t have an airfield other than carrier or airstart. Some decent mountains along the Black Sea coast too, which would be on an expanded Novorossisk map. Plenty of real mountain areas, some already represented in WT, which could make good EC maps, so no need to create fantastical moonscape worlds (like GF Ireland, Italy).
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You are 100% right.
16 modern jets against 16 modern jets on a too small map with a max life expectancy of maybe 2 minutes feels as bad as arcade.
Less players with more space expands the tactical possibilities as a team. especially in high Br.s this is important.
Unfortunately, we are in the minority here. I’ve often had discussions here with people who unfortunately want the opposite.
with WW2 airplanes I find sometimes fuller and sometimes less full spaces interesting for a change. but the prerequisite is that it is Axis vs. Alliies. and no mix nation garbage. with the jets best Nato vs. China and Russia. unfortunately this scenario no longer exists since Usefull Action
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Usefull Action is the worst thing happened to EC…
These days if you are above average it’s better to play this cancer RB to exp or earn silver…
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I will never play RB again, even if it has 100 times higher rewards.
I’m here to fly, not to point my mouse at things.
There are far better games for that.
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Yeah… I tried In the Gripen… Nope, never again, much prefer SB.
Agreed 100%
I absolutely agreee that the killfeed should NOT be publicly popping up. Especially because farmers and bots are exploiting base and airport bombing, while real players that try to do cas, which cannot be automated, are punished by the game by having their actions broadcasted. This needs to change.
Also, the way heavy/interdictors bombers are played need to change. Right now they dont offer any value to human players, they are just abused by bots.
And again, player count NEEDS to drop at higher tiers. No more than 8v8, especially as BVR weapons are becoming more popular and especially when the fox3 will drop.
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Yeah agreed, Main reason I avoid CAS in more vulnerable aircraft like the Tornado or Jaguar and only do it in something that cna fight back, like the Harrier Gr7
Yeah, I really enjoy playing Interdictors like the Tornado and Strike Aircraft like the Buc or Jag, but I do sometimes feel like im not really helping my team. I tend to prioritise targets that will at least do ticket damage, but its often not much. They could add some targets well suited for these types of aircraft. Like heavy bases, or static targets like Bridges. Would also be good if certain targets held greater value like the Carrier.
yes and no.
yes because you are right. Mouse aiming is crap & 3 person gunners are crap. hardcore zombers are of course also crap.
but no because most of the demands from pure fighter pilots are aimed at completely devaluing bombers or even ousting bombers from the game.
I see bombers as a very important element. in reality and in the game. I love flying US B-17 bombers in Ruhr to bomb my own homeland :D
but of course I also like to fly interceptors to intercept the bombers with “schräger Musik”.
…if flying with bombers is no longer profitable and there are no more bombers to be seen, something very important is missing.
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especially with the current state of literally every other air mode for these aircraft as well
Speaking of sim, why is the mig23ml 11.0 and the mld 11.3? Is the mla 11.3 as well? How more p2w can you make this