Open cockpit canopy exploit needs to be eliminated

Read first sentence of the repost.

You are right, but those have big windshiled that is enought to keep pilot save, the problem with opend cabine in warthunder is at cold war and toptier, where supersonic planes are flying, at speeds that would you suck into the seat and wouldent let you do anything about it.

Before throwing around pictures that have already been discussed many times, you’d better take the trouble to look at the plane itself.

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This is Extra-330 aerobatics aircraft without any front protection for better pilot view, in which the pilot sits high, and in that case even without a helmet or even glasses.

As mentioned earlier, much faster aircraft with an open cockpit existed and still exist.
There have also been numerous cases of canopy destruction in the air at supersonic speeds and successfull landing. Moreover, aircraft are even tested for such cases.

You actually started with that supersonic speed will tear off the pilot’s head.
Stop passing off your speculations as truth.

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MiG-31:

"April 11, 2008, a serious aviation incident: in the 21st minute of the flight, at an altitude of 16213 m and a true air speed of 2414 km/h (mach 2+), the folding canopy of the first cabin, in which Lieutenant Colonel K. N. Kozitsky was located, broke off, and both cabins of the aircraft were depressurized.
The crew took action to reduce speed and altitude in extremely low temperatures (below −55 degrees Celsius), and then made a safe landing at the airfield.

As the plane descended, there was a threat of reaching supersonic speed at altitudes below 11500 m. Vladimir Prikhodko took control and put the plane into a climb. At an altitude of 13237 m, the speed dropped, and the crew began to descend and brake to subsonic flight speed. At altitude 11880 m the crew began an emergency descent to an altitude below 4000 m.
At an altitude of 11000 m, the tension of the altitude-compensating suits was weakened, the noise decreased and the crew was able to begin to communicate with each other. At an altitude of 7500 m, Guard Lieutenant Colonel Konstantin Kozitsky was able to report that the canopy was broken, depressurized, and dropped to an altitude of 3500 m.

For their courage and high professionalism, the crew consisting of Lieutenant Colonels Vladimir Prikhodko and Konstantin Kozitsky was nominated for state awards."

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Newspaper article

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You can read it there thay redused speed. But why? By your logic thay just could continue flyght at hight speed, because it wount effect the pilot.
So answer me, why did thay reduced speed? For losing alt? For loosing alt you dont need to loose speed, only for leanding witch was pritty far away.
Those are incidents might have happend but again, thay had to lose speed and only than day could do anything.

Try this, put book big as your head infront of you i an distace of half a meter, behind book put fan and you’ll see that the air flow will go around the book and hit.your face.

If you thing the aerodinamics is that simple, I understand why you think the way you do.
Air flow never goes away from the plane, but around it as thight as it can, that means that if you lose cabine the air would like to go in so it balance the presure.

You telling me, a man can’t ride a 200+mph bike because of a “wind” hitting a face?

This bike has almost the same top speed as the Extra-330 from you last post with the girl-pilot.

No, it is you thinking it’s simple.

A pre-war speed record planes had open cockpits. And they reached higher than 700 km/h speeds.

Modern jets had been tested for flying without canopy at supersonic speeds.

Because this situation may occur inflight. And this happens all the time. I provided you several cases already. Here and in PM.

Because it’s a standart procedure! It’s wasn’t battle in air or else. Every malfunction leads to cancel mission and return to base.
They will also return to base if they had jammed gear or malfunction in radio or else.

BUT! We are playing game here! We don’t return to base immediately with “yellow” part of aircraft or lost gear when you forgot to retract it. WE CONTINUE TO FLY AND FIGHT!

You also don’t drive your car when it’s suddenly broken. You go home slowly or tow it to shop.
But in “battle” situation cars can be driven like this:

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Because these were unbearable conditions for the pilots.

That’s what we want from devs to implement ingame for cabriolet-enjoyers.

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I admit that some planes have worked out this problem, some have been disanged for it, but it doesnt mean for all of them. Its just a work for the gaidin to make every plane spcial and more detaild as thay were. You have convenced me.

Just saying…

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Much better, way too many arguments here have been too much catch-all.

Yeah, I always wonder about those that claim that they should be able to open the cockpit of fast movers without repercussions in game:

WHY?!?

Obviously it’s important enough for them to express this - but this can only be if opening the cockpit is actually relevant for gameplay.

Which obviously means an unfair, not intended advantage over the others.

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Just mute all other sound except wind on 400+ kmh speed.
Also, not every jet had altitude suit for pilot. Rapid change in pressure in open cockpit will cause pilot lose some “skills”.
I can go from sea level to stratosphere in 1 minute, but pilot doesn’t care to react in any way sitting in fresh air.

There’s already no difference between cockpit open or closed. You can’t hear anything unless gaijin has screwed up something at top tier.
Some said you can hear missiles, but then immediately after mentioned you also hear them with the canopy closed as well.

And for those that doubt my claims of not being able to hear anything:

Tell me, at which point exactly did you hear this Corsair right in front of me?

you heard the “boom!” but this demonstration would be better with open and closed canopies…

Yes, that’s my point exactly. You already can’t hear someone else’s engine unless you’re right on them.

You can hear the explosion but at that point he’s already dead and it is affected by speed of sound anyway.

I’ll leave the closed canopy demonstration for someone else. My point has been illustrated.

Firstly, there’s a known case where the canopy flew off a MiG-25 at a speed above Mach 1. The pilot not only survived and stayed conscious but also managed to land the aircraft. Secondly, this solves the problem of poor visibility, especially in the terrible cockpits of Russian planes. So, why not?

Because using this in normal operation is just not realistic.

Yes, there were accidents with losing a canopy in a fast mover during flight. But those were accidents.

So some aircraft have limited visibility? Well, that’s just a design feature, and thus also realistic. Other aircraft have underpowered engines, others are not very agile, yet others have poor armament,…

Sorry to have to be so blunt, but just live with it!

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This heavy cloud cover in the Sinai Desert is also just unrealistic, but I see it on this map with enviable regularity. Who cares?

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That sounded incredibly cynical, to be honest. You should definitely fix that ‘poor armament’ first before writing something like that.

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