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Just put wheel brakes on a second key like x or idk ?

I need to brake the wheels while the engine is at 100%

Yes, that’s what i’m saying, put the wheel break on another key than the throttle down (while keeping it on the throttle down).

Perfect, thanks. It was the B key in simulator mode

From what I understand from talking to people who know UK tech, no.
Hence the South African Gripen or CF-18 that is brought up in every debate about the next UK top tier.

@ueberman

“ah yes we get the sidegrade while you get the downgrade, tell me in what way is the AZUR worse then the other Leclercs you had before?”

Leclerc AZUR is a Leclerc S2, so it lost its commander thermal against the SXXI.

Btw SXXI should have all internal armor reinforced with titanium, wich is not the case, among all of the problem.

Also AZUR is a kit that can be used on every Leclercs after the S1, so again, a strange choice.

At least theycould have put the SXXI that got the AZUR, but no, they give us the downgraded S2 after the SXXI.

Also, AZUR should be NERA, not ERA.

so its not worse then the other Leclercs besides the SXXI, thats it?

It’s worst than the last top of the line Leclerc, so it’s a downgraded leclerc that we got (since it’s the “last” of the line.

Also Leclercs are full of wrong things. Armor should be better (specially UFP that can be pen by 8.3 Russian apfsds, sorry but that’s not realistic).
Turret rotation speed should be around 40°/s, perhaps almost twice it’s current speed.

Overall speed should be better too.

And why you and almsot everybody got better APFSDS, we are so late in APFSDS than even if we got the next step, it still would be obsolete for SXXI irl service, telling you how far we are.

So yes your leo are not anymore the top of the top of the game, but they still are totally playable and not as broken as our MBTs. Also you can bring some support vehicles.

I have news for you but the PSO does not bring anything better to the table its basically a 2A5 with more side armor, which doesnt do anything and is basically useless, more powerfull engine, which because of the higher weight results in the PSO not being faster at all.

and speaking of questionable choices, why do we get a tank which is specialized in urban warfare in a game without soldiers?

and the PSO is also last of the line and is also not better then the 2A6 or 2A5 before it so can i also call it downgrade now?

AZUR didn’t bring anything new too, same tank, with same worst armor and shell than almost every other nations.

And about questionable choices, i’m totally agree with you, because AZUR is the same things.
'Action en Zone URbaine" = action in urban areas.

And yes, i guess you can.

I don’t think there’s evidence of that? Back on the old forum the discussion was mostly about the turret.

perhaps almost twice it’s current speed.

According to that manual leak in regards to the Leclerc, that is impossible. It was stated to be 40°/s

we are so late in APFSDS than even if we got the next step, it still would be obsolete for SXXI irl service

Well, OFL F1B per Nexter catalogue (OFL F2 is not mentioned lol), but that is just a slightly improved OFL F1 to my knowledge.

So yes your leo are not anymore the top of the top of the game, but they still are totally playable. Also you can bring some support vehicles.

The same can be said about the Leclerc though? Back when S1 was added, it was arguably the best tank in the game, similar to how 2A5 and 2A6 were the best at the time of their additions.

Down the line both nations became neglected;
PSO: straight downgrade from the 2A5; armour is worse, mobility is worse, additional side armour is a gimmick that falls off after a single hit (it basically behaves like ERA… the same armour package on the Ariete cannot fall off as it has no hp), and its frontal UFP add-on which is identical to Strv 122s make it less armoured. An inferior vehicle replaced the superior vehicle (2A6)
AZUR: straight downgrade from the SXXI, mobility is worse, it lost CITV and has worse armour frontally. Again an inferior MBT replaced the superior one (SXXI).

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then welcome to the club thats literally the PSO.

Except you have armor + shell advantage :)

you mean the armor which has twice as much spall as everybody else?

so what youre asking for is SHARD? Im sorry theres no better alternative for france which will bring you up to par.

Yep thats why i said “almost”, don’t remember it’s current number but far from 40°/s at least.

Still more shells available. OFLE F1/F2 afaik for starting, then SHARD later.

Yes, but the things is during this time, almost every nation got better APFSDS. Now everybody can pen us even on our best armor spot, but our current shells didn’t get upgraded, so we have to aim to weakspot when everybody can just aim and delet us anywhere.

Afaik we have the second worst APFSDS now.

Britains domestic aircraft was:

Phantom FG1 for FAA retired in 1978 replaced by Sea Harrier FRS1

Torando Gr1 entered service for interdiction in 1979

Tornado F3 entered service for Air defence in 1985

Harrier Gr7/9 were introduced for CAS in 1989

Phantom F3 (F4JUK) retired 1991

Phantom FGR2 retired 1992

Sea Harrier FRS1 became the the Sea Harrier FA2 with AMRAAM/Blue Vixen in 1993

Tornado Gr1 was replaced by the Tornado Gr4 in 1997 with lessons learnt in 1991 Gulf war, mostly incorporated precision weapons like Brimstone

In 2003 the EF Typhoon entered service and slowly began taking over the Tornado F3s jobs but it took time to train crews.

Tornado F3 was upgraded with AMRAAM and ASRAAM starting in 1996 and finally finished in 2006

Due to inter-service politics. Sea Harrier FA2 was scrapped in 2006 (6 years earlier than planned). pilots transfered to Gr7/9

Tornado F3 was retired in 2010

Harrier Gr7/9 were retired in 2010 (a few years earlier than planned, but did get to test Brimstone)

Typhoon took over the CAS roles with the Typhoon FGR4 and proved highly successful in 2014+ in operation shader

Tornado Gr4 retired in 2019

F-35 entered service in 2021

Bit messy, but gives you a basic lay down of what goes where

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That’s kinda the thing, France didn’t bother to pursue new KEP just like Sweden and Italy until very recently (give or take ~2 years back), but a fun fact, Italy has received a round they never operated nor tested but that’s kinda beside the point. There is physically no new shell that can be added that would have drastically higher performance unless we start handing out DM53s to everybody just cus, and when it comes to SHARD Mk.1, there is nothing known about it apart from its muzzle velocity.

Afaik we have the second worst APFSDS now.

Third I believe, China should have a worse one (nope, theirs is better by 2mm on standard ZTZ-99A acutally)
Overall it goes like this;
DM53 (L/55) - > M829A2 - > DM53 (L/44) - > M338 - > Type 10 KEP - > M829A1 - > SLPPRJ M/95 - > KE-W - > 3BM-60 - > DTC10-125 - > OFL F1 - > L27A1.

I’ve read about some OFL F1B and F1B+, alongside some OFLE 120, i’m sure we can find things to add…

Then yeah, SHARD, why not ?

Those projectiles are still based on OFL F1, i.e the exact same penetrator. I’ve read that F1B+ could be using SCBD propellant of the DM63, hence it wouldn’t be capable of exploding, so that’s at least the silver lining.

Then yeah, SHARD, why not ?

As stated before, nothing apart from MV is known. Gaijin could make it just an OFL F1 performance wise and there’d be nothing we could do to change that.

“this ammunition sets a new performance standard, with increased penetration capacity combined with very high accuracy”

I guess it would’nt be enough knowing gaijin to give us a really good round and adjusting with times. Would only work if it’s for some major nation that was making this shell i guess…