Excuse me, what are you reffering to?
(If its that is has Pzgr.40, dont bother, they dont care.)
And im not shure wheter it is even incorrect, as the Bk5 was placed on multiple plance including desicated AT runs, and most of the time (especially with the JU-88 P-4) top down is unrealistic.
I’m talking about the full APHE belt.
Why?
Also belts are part of ballancing as well as what makes you think that they didnt used full Pzgr.39 against armored targets?
(Except 4000/10 which is ideal usage to base your need on, which doenst specifiy the usage for sayed 5 cm gun.)
Coming back to the Ju 88 P-4 Ausf.B which is also handloaded(with support), they would also choose what ammo to shoot at what targets.
Never mind.
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I never tested it much, but in the past I heard a lot about MK 103 dispersion nerfs. Specially Ho 229 was considered a menace to all ground vehicles thanks to it’s agility and we still have a separate MK 103 cannon model for Ho 229. I’ve heard it’s less accurate than the others. When it comes to the few planes with NS-45, they should have plenty of room to adjust the accuracy in one way or another or push the BRs up. Still it should have been obvious how well this round would perform, so they could have already adjusted something. Sure we still get other grossly overpowered things now and then, but lately they have been able to react to those sooner.
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Have you found anything more and can you give name of those documents? If there is a photo of the round, then I would expect there to be at least the weight as well. Unfortunately that 66.6% might indicate they only tested as low as 3 rounds.
At any rate I really want to know how little is considered enough to implement new ordnance for WWII era aircraft. I couldn’t find a guideline about it, so I might as well try writing one about Ho-401 APHE and see how it goes. It’s definitely not any useful round and will result into many nose plantations if someone would try top attacking with it. A fun one at least.
As was proven before NS-45’s shells are completely different to soviet’s tank’s 45mm 20-K which are mounted on best soviet low-rank tanks. I won’t argue with the fact that 45mm gun has harder recoil anyway. NS-45 has more power (as were proven several times), but not in game as compare with NS-37 when shooting air targets (okay I can live with that), use it against armored vehicles until holy APHE still can penetrate. NS-37 has a significant advantage in gunspray and large amount of blast power in game, so it’s better to be used against aircrafts. NS-37 can be used against ground vehicles when on low rank battles only and with armor-piercing shells (if you try to learn it’s gunnery well).
That’s all folks.
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It used to be less accurate. It isn’t anymore.
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The NS-37 HEI-T is one of the few rounds that doesn’t use realShatter, so at the moment it’s somewhat less lethal than 45mm HEI-T, but in general both will one shot a wing or tail off.
God I’m sick of seeing Yak-9K every match racking up 3-6 kills per ammo load. It makes the Wyvern look balanced.
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Good evidence there. This is so poorly and lazily added. The magic autocannon, seeing that now it makes sense how there is basically no dispersion.
Let me guess, we actually have to bug report this obvious lack of care?
It’s extremely obvious they are well over performing and wholly unrealistic. I tire of seeing the same plane in the air every match, getting 3-6 kills per belt and ruining matches. I can’t play SPAA all the time.
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It seems like usual 4.0 round has up to 5 Yak-9Ks on air. Quite surprisingly I haven’t seen a single TIS MA so far. They used to relatively common up to 6.3 BR. This month their price jumped from 75G to 125G and there aren’t a lot left in stock. Can’t think if I’ve ever seen Su-8 or Tu-1. The latter would be an easy target for AA of that BR anyway and both are too clumsy for top attack.
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Yes, but it’s HVAP in a default belt with 91mm pen. Almost as much as what the MK103 had before, and much more than what it has now.
The solid shot for the 3.7cm Flaks would have ~67mm, and the HVAP would have ~110mm. Both are missing, while other nations have much better AP ammo in their 37 and 40mm SPAAs. Just adding that solid shot as an AP-T belt maybe mixed with some HE or APHE, would put them on par with other SPAAs in their ability to defend themselves, instead of the current situation where they’re pretty much useless the moment something remotely armored shows up.
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There’s no solid shot for the German 37mm.
Said many times but the ability to destroy vehicles is irrelevant for SPAA.
Some SPAA are decent for air and ground combat while those that aren’t good against ground vehicles are much more effective against air for the same BR.
Destroying planes is incredible valuable. A guy that spawns in a plane after getting one kill is out of the game when he gets killed without earning any more SP.
What if you spawned an SPAA, and the 1-3 CAS planes (or however many there were) instantly crash the moment you spawn in - as has happened to me many times - you’re then screwed if you’re playing germany.
Other SPAAs like the M53/59, ZSU-37, the 25mm GAZ trucks, any of the swedish 40mm ones, can reliably defend themselves. The Ostwinds are lucky to pen a 1940 T-34 anywhere.
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What most, if not all SPAAs? Praga is 1,where is the rest you’re talking about
Ostwind has 49mm pen, as it does not get any of its better AP shells.
All Dusters and other AAs using the same gun get 72mm pen AP-T; ZSU-37 and Phong khong T-34 gets 70mm AP-T and 87mm HVAP; 25mm 72-K on the milk trucks has 57mm AP-T; Leopard 40/70, AMX13 DCA 40, and Lvkv 42 get 93mm pen AP; L-62 ANTI and Lvtdgb m/40 both get a choice of either 79mm AP-T or 68mm SAP - Lvkv 42 also has it but that one will probably see far more use out of the higher pen AP.
WIth this, the Ostwinds are the clear exceptions with the worst AP pen of any SPAA in the 37-40mm class, and it’s not due to a better shell simply not existing. 67mm pen solid shot wouldn’t break the game by any stretch, and the Ostwind complainers would be overjoyed by it probably moving up from 3.3 then.
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Are there any diagrams of this 37 mm round?
Unfortunately GhostMaxi has not added it to his thread yet, so no. But you can find it on some german vessels with the 37mm FlaK 43:
There is a diagram on his thread for the 110mm pen HVAP shell for the same cannon, but I’m not asking for that unless it came on another vehicle entirely, like the Flakpanzer III. It would be way too strong.
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I had a nuke in ground battles, flying the B29. A single shot of the 45mm APHE fragged the entire plane. Very cool and fair, anti everything cannon.
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