God I’m sick of seeing Yak-9K every match racking up 3-6 kills per ammo load. It makes the Wyvern look balanced.
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Good evidence there. This is so poorly and lazily added. The magic autocannon, seeing that now it makes sense how there is basically no dispersion.
Let me guess, we actually have to bug report this obvious lack of care?
It’s extremely obvious they are well over performing and wholly unrealistic. I tire of seeing the same plane in the air every match, getting 3-6 kills per belt and ruining matches. I can’t play SPAA all the time.
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It seems like usual 4.0 round has up to 5 Yak-9Ks on air. Quite surprisingly I haven’t seen a single TIS MA so far. They used to relatively common up to 6.3 BR. This month their price jumped from 75G to 125G and there aren’t a lot left in stock. Can’t think if I’ve ever seen Su-8 or Tu-1. The latter would be an easy target for AA of that BR anyway and both are too clumsy for top attack.
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Yes, but it’s HVAP in a default belt with 91mm pen. Almost as much as what the MK103 had before, and much more than what it has now.
The solid shot for the 3.7cm Flaks would have ~67mm, and the HVAP would have ~110mm. Both are missing, while other nations have much better AP ammo in their 37 and 40mm SPAAs. Just adding that solid shot as an AP-T belt maybe mixed with some HE or APHE, would put them on par with other SPAAs in their ability to defend themselves, instead of the current situation where they’re pretty much useless the moment something remotely armored shows up.
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There’s no solid shot for the German 37mm.
Said many times but the ability to destroy vehicles is irrelevant for SPAA.
Some SPAA are decent for air and ground combat while those that aren’t good against ground vehicles are much more effective against air for the same BR.
Destroying planes is incredible valuable. A guy that spawns in a plane after getting one kill is out of the game when he gets killed without earning any more SP.
What if you spawned an SPAA, and the 1-3 CAS planes (or however many there were) instantly crash the moment you spawn in - as has happened to me many times - you’re then screwed if you’re playing germany.
Other SPAAs like the M53/59, ZSU-37, the 25mm GAZ trucks, any of the swedish 40mm ones, can reliably defend themselves. The Ostwinds are lucky to pen a 1940 T-34 anywhere.
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What most, if not all SPAAs? Praga is 1,where is the rest you’re talking about
Ostwind has 49mm pen, as it does not get any of its better AP shells.
All Dusters and other AAs using the same gun get 72mm pen AP-T; ZSU-37 and Phong khong T-34 gets 70mm AP-T and 87mm HVAP; 25mm 72-K on the milk trucks has 57mm AP-T; Leopard 40/70, AMX13 DCA 40, and Lvkv 42 get 93mm pen AP; L-62 ANTI and Lvtdgb m/40 both get a choice of either 79mm AP-T or 68mm SAP - Lvkv 42 also has it but that one will probably see far more use out of the higher pen AP.
WIth this, the Ostwinds are the clear exceptions with the worst AP pen of any SPAA in the 37-40mm class, and it’s not due to a better shell simply not existing. 67mm pen solid shot wouldn’t break the game by any stretch, and the Ostwind complainers would be overjoyed by it probably moving up from 3.3 then.
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Are there any diagrams of this 37 mm round?
Unfortunately GhostMaxi has not added it to his thread yet, so no. But you can find it on some german vessels with the 37mm FlaK 43:
There is a diagram on his thread for the 110mm pen HVAP shell for the same cannon, but I’m not asking for that unless it came on another vehicle entirely, like the Flakpanzer III. It would be way too strong.
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I had a nuke in ground battles, flying the B29. A single shot of the 45mm APHE fragged the entire plane. Very cool and fair, anti everything cannon.
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Don’t forget the Yak-9UT . I have used it and had it used against me many times. The amount of firepower it has against ANY target is insane. You basically dictate the flow of the game.
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Me in my flackpanzer 341 sat back and hoping it comes to my favorite ifv.
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They should give it the 110mm pen HVAP just because it’ll be funny
Its historically accurate though.
With time 45mm at guns became obsolete as at weapons but they kept geing used as infantry guns.
Light to move and very accurate. At 2 km hit pillbox window no problem.
The weapon is accurate, we’re talking about the accuracy when mounted on plane firing in full auto.
The recoil has practically no affect on the plane and you can easily have 3-5 shots hit the same target.
It’s the same deal with the Yak-9T, except that the NS-45 should have even more recoil, making it impractical.
Otherwise the NS-45 would be a straight upgrade over the the NS-37, except the excessive recoil made it unuitable as fighter armament.
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apart from the calibre there is no commonality between the aircraft cannon and the ground-mount guns…
Different cartridge, different barrel, different sights, different feed mechanism and of course a very different mount. It’s like comparing RARDEN to GAU-8.
Meanwhile Il-2 with NS-37 was considered a failure because it only achieved hits on a target tank in 43% of trial sorties. And as per ammo spent the accuracy was 2,98%.
That is in perfect weather, on a static target with no aspects like AA or enemy aircraft, and on a slower and more stable aircraft.
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WT is a game - not reality.
A long time ago I had a document where the USAF tested M8 rockets vs T34/85 targets in Korea - they got about 6% within a couple of meters/direct hits - and that was in trials as the Il-2 was - with hte target highlighted
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