they would. the gripen E is leaps and bounds ahead of the F18 in dogfighting and Air superiority roles no?
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thats a non issue, the f15 airframe is far from weak, if the amraam buff comes with f15 fm fix it wil lbe more than enough. wont be an eurofighter but nothing is an eurofighter and nothing will ever be an eurofighter.
maybe the f15a but the f15c airframe loses a duel to the flankers as it is rn, and doesnt have anywhere near the acceleration and speed to be usable in BVR
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As much as I also find a large amount of AlvisWisla, takes to be either out of touch or just overly passive aggressive.
Lets one, not shame with Stat Shark, it suffers the same problem of all overall stat checks that being it doesn’t take into account bad matches when stock grinding, trying different fighters that play different, as well as just user coming back to the game, I personally was really shit in the past, and its almost permanently hurt my player stats on Stat Shark to be fair I could just suck at using Stat Shark, so I wont say it isn’t possible to achieve finding accurate statistics.
Plus its just better to not be this hostile, even if the opinions their pushing don’t agree with our ,whether or not the player is good, it really should come down to the actual topic discussion not just you are worse so your opinions are invalid.
The really only questionable part, is that most of his actual Top tier fox 3 carrying planes like the f15E, F16c, EF2000, F15J(M) other than mica carriers are pretty average or even below that, again that should not really take away his right to make opinions.
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to be fair you could always switch to all time stats and check using those, or stats for a specific vehicle which is nice. thats why I think statshark is a good way to check if someone is decent at the game, if they have at least 50 percent then they’re an above average player and their opinions is probably somewhat valid/justifiable
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Its because hes a real stats oriented person. His stats are seal clubber stats, just ignore him. He lives on the forums as he has nothing else going on.
Not only Alvis is repeteadly wrong on several topics and dedicates to gaslight on threads, he also brings manipulated screenshots and calculations to discussions.
@Sophiе wasn’t wrong on calling him out for what he really is or what he believes.
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And so was I, and I bet most of people here who’s good and eventually their stats became better. Is that an actual excuse?
The problem comes when such people discredits your opinion while not even having a mediocre, but an objectively bad performance, and claiming X or Y thing is better or worse than you believe based on their gut feeling. That is not a fair ground for debate, even if it falls under the courtain of being an argument from authority, but it’s the only way to recognize if you’re talking to someone who actually knows what he’s talking about in the context of War Thunder.
But we’re digressing too much from the main topic: the F-15C GE is mid and a sidegrade of the F-15E at best. And there’s already CCs like Gamerino and MatAWG straightup downplaying the fact. Both of them being words away from calling it meta.
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nobody who is taken seriously is claiming this aircraft is anything but doa
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It is not. It might be the worst 14.3, but it would be by far the best 14.0 which means unfortunately, that’s where it belongs in Gaijin’s eyes. Also, it’s a toptier aircraft, it’s only going to see downtiers. I know it’s not ideal, but I think it’ll perform fine.
this is a sad joke, it’d be barely noticeably different to the 13.7 MSIP II
the radar is slightly better at tracking TWS targets and you get some more worse CMs, not that you were ever running low on CMs with the F-15 in the first place, big whoop
Gamerino may be clearly wrong about the Golden Eagle, but his judgement is quite reliable most of the time.
Its just the anti-bias related to america speaking for him.
The F-15E still exists and its a practical sidegrade, trading SA and countermeasures for raw thrust performance and BVR potential.
The F/A-18C Late still exists and trades thrust for more missiles and AOA potential.
That is a hugely optimistic take. Once you get digital RWRs, it progressively becomes a matter of experience to overcome the jankiness of mechanical radars.
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It’s not like the 15C was a bad jet though… It’s a very solid all rounder. The main thing the 15C lacked was pure speed, situational awareness, and better armament. It got 2/3 of those in the best way they could’ve gotten it without adding the EX. I don’t agree with the decision to put it at 14.3 without the AMRAAM fixes, to be clear.
The F-15E lacks situational awareness and maneuverability even in simple stuff like turning. It’s on par speed with the Eurocanards is heavily squashed by it’s speedbleed and lack of turn capability.
The Hornet is a Hornet. Getting anywhere close to the payloads of the F-15C/E make the drag abhornet and the speed even worse. Sure it can turn, but the speedbleed is even worse than the SU-30. Again, it’s one strength is dwarfed by another one of it’s strengths, making it not great to play in various situations.
I’m being optimistic because really nobody else is. It’s still going to be playable.
It’s a solid all rounder at 13.7…
the armament is also not better, C-5s are junk, it’s just a slightly better radar and some worse CMs tacked on
It has been recently buffed, prior to the update it got a turning buff. And it’s not like the F-15C turns substantially better either, and while it has a subtle turning advantage, The current F-15Cs FM makes it bleed energy like if it was a delta plane.
That is a weak argument.
And so is the Horten 229, does it make it a good plane?
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It still doesn’t turn good and bleeds like 2x more speed, which is why I said what I said.
It wasn’t an argument.
You know what I mean. It’s a toptier plane. It has toptier missiles.
That probably because it’s pulling to much above dogfight speeds, as per the bug report on the flightmodel. Once that’s fixed, sure, it’ll pull less, but it will hold that speed like it should. It’ll also be better for notching as the plane’s AoA won’t be so high and delay the plane getting into the notch.
And has a 25% more thrust than the F-15C to compensate the imposed drag.
Another compromise to make it useful, not a buff.
And would still be a sidegrade, not an upgrade.
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Oh I know, He’s a stat padder with limited skill in ARB at any BR above 10-11.0. I am told 23 and me is supposed to be about learning your genetic history but I would bet for him its mostly counting his chromosomes.
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The F-15C outpaces the J-11B (and any other flanker) in BVR. It climbs better, accelerates better, and it has a loadout more suited for BVR.
However you are correct that it will lose to the flankers in a duel.
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