Not wasting my time with the F-15C "Golden Eagle"

The brand new F-15C Golden Eagle is obviously DOA, its a strong contender for the worst 14.3 fir many reasons.
The speed of the F-15C is something many people overestimated. Sure, this thing can get to speeds of mach 1.40+ in the early game, but its acceleration and energy retention dont allow you to keep that speed if your enemys contest you with their own missiles. When up against the Eurofighter and Rafale in a missile joust, the F-15C has no choice but to be defensive for these exact reasons, you will lose energy faster than them, making your missiles have less range and it becomes harder to avoid their missiles.
The main play style of the F-15C is now where is always has the disadvantages, so what is it supposed to do?

There you have it, the F-15C Golden Eagle will be worse in bvr compared to every other 14.3 other the Su-30SM.
If the F-15C gets double pylons, that literally fixes NONE of the issues of it being at 14.3, the smartest and ONLY way to fix it is to move it to 14.0, the things it’s missing still wont justify being the same br as the eurocanards, because the platform is just that good.

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B-but it's got a new radar!

Now seriously, this gotta be one of the lamest top tier vehicles ever released, yet some people are hyped for its avionics, while the missile kit, flight and thrust performance combined are mediocre related to top tier, to say the least.

If anyone gets hyped for a radar and RWR… then jump to a Rafale instead lol.

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The differences in capability between MSIP and GE arent that big (similiarly to the two finish hornets) so i asume GE will be one of the candidatws to recieve next gen IRs in the future while MSIP will remain at its current BR with its current kit

We should have gotten the actual Golden Eagle 2040C upgrade instead of this crap.

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Yeah, and so they will fix the AIM-120C5 AOA performance as well to what it was before they gimped it when introduced. /s

Sometimes I think you people view them in an overly condescending and permissive way, even when they’ve proven you wrong time and time again.

Looks like someone missed the Baz Meshupar addition. Just be grateful that your F-15s actually work, ours didn’t for over 4 months

One of, not the, never missed it. Your education has failed you.

Why so salty lol

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They will probably add double pylons as a balancing decision like they did with the su-27sm

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You came first with a bitter and resentful retort about a working F-15.

I don’t have to be grateful about anything, most of us pay premium and others buy premium packs like candies. Everyone has the exact same right to complain, just like Israeli players did with their Meshupar radar (which eventually got fixed because of the noise made by them).

weve already talked about this, I merely had more optimistic outlook on the thing which missed the mark lol.

saying that GE is posed to recieve next gen IRs in the future is entirely different matter. They are coming, just like ARHs will be more likely than not introduced at the same time for multiple nations, and it wouldnt make sense to give these next gen IRs to ALL aircraft that can carry them as that would lead to new BR gaps. Ergo GE is prime candidate to recieve them.

just chill.

And you’re falling for the same again. Never believe in Gaijin until they actually deliver, it has happened time and time again and you people fall stumble on the same stone.

Yeah, sure. As if they won’t introduce new IR missiles for everyone else as well, neutralizing the gained feature. You people are way too naive, Gaijin would NEVER give an edge like that just to the US, the general outrage would be noticeable and even understandable.

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Lame update and lame vehicle, not surprised tbh.

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Notice I took my lesson and didnt say to keep calm during devserver when it came to new tornado and hosbos, nor i am saying to stay calm when it released without brimstones or hosbos on wing pylons.

nor am i denying that current state of GE isnt 14.3 worthy (like me saying that differences in capability between MSIP and GE arent that big).

however merely making a prediction about possible future update is entirely different matter.

well yeah

why shouldnt next gen IRs follow the same precedent as ARHs which were all added at the same time?

yes, gaijin should ideally never give such massive leap in capability to single nation, no matter which one.

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To which my point is: If you’re handing a new gen of IR missiles to everyone else too, where’s the gained advantage for the F-15C GE that currently doesn’t have? You’re neutralizing the supposed advantage if everyone else has something similar.

The only reasonable solution I could think of to keep the plane at 14.3 is the addition of MLMR pylons/AMBER racks, but if they didn’t modelled them in the dev server, it is more than likely they won’t add them anytime soon. It becomes more realistic to ask for the F-15C GE to be moved down to 14.0 than to balance it properly, as Gaijin gave it BOL and called it a day, skipping the FM buff, EPAWSS, etc.

usa main f15ge

The last truly meta top tier plane the US got for ARB was literally a year ago with the F-15E, while everyone else has got something powerful on flight performance, avionics or missiles, or at least two combined features.

F/A-18C late? Mediocre at best, overshadowed by the EF/Rafale, and even the Su-30 on its own update 😂😂😂
F-15C GE? Also mediocre, the base airframe is nowhere near Eurocanards performance, C5s are dogwater and a radar + BOL are not enough to cut it.

Go meme (erratically) about the US somewhere elsewhere.

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always complain and dont know how to play, f15ge and f15e is the same plane with weak engine, how would that make difference

even with 12 aim120, it isnt a 14.3 plane lol. It’s 14.0 at best, idk what gaijin is smoking