how was it not better than the mig-29 on release lol, f-16 adf had better radar missile and better ir missiles as well as better 1v1 dogfight performance (although it could only pull 9gs/ fking 7.5gs at high altitude) but worse general flight performance
how often do people get away with launching AMRAAMs at mach 2 in an F-15E without dying because to hit mach 2 they have been going into a straight line well inside of enemy missile effective range
Yes, but you still can notch anything at almost any distance, you can also launch back, and because the Su has 12 missiles, and can carry R-27ER, the Su-30 will win every time, once the F-15E is out of missiles its over, you can launch at match fuck and nothing will happen
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Just sideclimb then?
but it isnt?
irl their flight performance isnt that much better than ex, and is very similar to late block f16s
and both of those have similar avionics and other features to them
f-15e will never win against any competent su-30sm player lol with missiles involved
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Even better for the enemy team lol, now your basically a guaranteed kill because your way closer when you hit mach 2 and there’s no way you notch
BVR in war thunder is inherently based on luck, mainly that your enemy doesn’t defend in time, this is no different from the F-15 or Su-30
Lirerally every single irl source available states otherwise, you’ve pulled that out of your ass and claim I’m the liar
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone spent any Golden Eagles for the F-15C “Golden Eagle”?
I’m sorry. I couldn’t resist.
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Unlikely considering the bad press it’s been getting
iirc ADF didnt really have better dogfight performance
also in what world is 7f better than r27, anyone who said that clearly doesnt know how to roll
16a just barely did but that had no radar missiles
and both their flight models were much worse for actual gameplay due to the lack of high speed pull
It’s a glorified version of the current F-15C MSIP II with a much better radar, more countermeasures for two br steps above.
By that last part, I assume you GE’d it. Try to enjoy it I guess? Though I assure you it won’t be a walk in the park like a Rafale or a Su-30. You’ll have to sweat considerably to perform good, as you lack the thrust to weight ratio (and basically afterburner thrust power) other 14.3s have, and your flight model bleeds energy like crazy, so you also have to handle your energy pretty carefully.
After the first Mig-29 FM nerf, there was literally no competition between F-16A/ADF/Netz/MLU and migs, the only advantage they had was the ER, but paired with an abysmal radar.
Stop being a victim
back then most people didn’t know how to out roll aim-7fs lol. also back then, r-27s were only 30gs and not the 35gs they’re today and you could out roll them.
Nowadays you can’t but this was before the fin aoa+g overload buff
here’s an f-14 outrolling a r-27er (skip to 13:30)
Honestly, I think F-15C GE have the right to complain
So it seems it is weak 14.3, I think
Without decompression and sending Rafale higher than 14.7+
F-15C GE might be 14.15-ish in maximum, I guess.
So I agree with the idea of buffing F-15C GE generally.
But some complaints in this thread seem to contain a victim mentality. :/
something similar to ‘American ALWAYS gave their top-tier jet to other nations, and they ALWAYS have a superior version compared to the American version.’
TLDR about my thinking :
1- Yes, I think F-15C GE isn’t strong enough to be 14.3 in the current meta.
2- I disagree about the MLMR pylon and AMBER rack because it is a bit fishy about that addition to F-15C GE is 100% historical.
But, if it reaaaally needs to get them
Well, I can support it even though I dislike that option.
3- It would be great if some radicals stopped playing victims.
There were also some ‘dominant’ american jets existed before. :/
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There is no luck in notching, maybe with the MICA, you either nocth right or you dont
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That’s a rule of thumb ?
Am i wrong?
Skip to 4:52, just saw this
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