Nerf AIM-120A/B

Lattice fins have way higher drag than IRL. The single pulse has way more power than AMRAAM rocket, after all AMRAAM is 180mm diameter.

Yes to C5. Not A.

not so simple again you can check back to the r77 thread it has been debated to death its a gross semplification.

if we go by specs claimed max range is around 90km, ive also seen a cockpit image of the hud of a su30 i think with 90 km as the roof, so its fair to assume thats achievable although im not sure of the legitimacy of said picture(also seen 70 kilometers in a different picture), and whilst yes thats also the claimed range for c-5 in practice it can well outdo that as it has been seen before(in general american range claims on munition tend to be inaccurate) and gain the r77 as a design makes concession.
single pulse is inherently worse for medium long range against maneuvering targets its simply how it is.

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needs nerf already

Lol.
Needs buff

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Missile can get buff if the stupid IOG after losing lock is nerfed by say, it’s scan area or lock rate.

The one small buff could be IOG must have really small speed difference to lock, which is a buff and nerf at the same time, less TK but also more likely to fall to chaff and notch.

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Yeah the maneuverability needs fixing. But i dont think its urgent its plenty fun already.

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I aint no expert but IOG has nothing to do with locking. Its not semi or active radar homing component.

The IOG relock which happens when u throw chaff and it might reacquire the lock onto u.

Still not IOG as far as i know.

It’s like a sub thing, not IOG, cause IOG just keeps it on track and allows reacquiring of lock.

This 100% people screaming aim120 op simply do because its the most common arh so they die to it often. At the ranges which aim120 has the advantage its incredibly easy to dodge any arh.

<20 km which is most combat its inferior to essentially every arh besides derby and r77, because whilst it says it pulls 35gs, it struggles to do so, checked replays myself, whilst things like aam4 and pl12 dont have that issue impart becayse of the faster ttg, also ofc micas and r77-1 reign supreme right now imo. Ive had matches which in which i jousted aim120 carriers and i just shot down their missile and shot a second missile at them. 14 missiles is an unhinged amount of firepower

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Derby is better sub 20km especially on high alt bvr fights when it doesnt lose its energy so fast while accelrating much faster then 120

Does it? I havent had much experience with em, they always looked a bit slow on my kfir

Well kfir isnt a great bvr platform more so when u get uptierd almost every match to 14.0
But in general the accelertion is great and unlike r77 it holds its energy well(relative to other short mid range fox 3)

Ofc if its low alt then the derby is better only at 15km and below

The AIM-120A/Bs are argueably some of the most powercrept missiles in game. Sure they are currently the best at BVR, but most of the time BVR ends up being 10-20km engagements where every missile can compete. WVR the AIM-120 is the worst off, and the AMRAAM is just as suceptible to chaff as any other fox3 (apart from the MICA-EM, which is 2x harder to notch than any other fox3 as the seeker is 7.5* opposed to 15, and the Derby/R-Darters which seem to like chaff more than an AIM-9B likes flares). As for you saying you play with russia, I’ve currently been using the R77 on the Su-27SM and its only downside is range. The R77 can do things the AIM-120 couldn’t dream of.

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TBH the AMRAAM can do sth R77s dream of: hitting someone without being in dog fight range. I really think they are not that bad in WVR but that in of itself is annoying.
AMRAAM to me isn’t even that bad if used by EF and JAS cause u can pull for the missile the Gs it can’t, F15s are the only ones slightly less potent, but they can also just stay high. I think kinetically AMRAAM isn’t even that much better, but the carriers aka F15E and EF are so fast that it makes AMRAAM seem so much faster.

My point is, the AIM-120A/Bs do not need a nerf. They are good at one thing only (Long range) and that only applies for maybe 2 minutes of a battle before everyone bunches up. The speed of the vehicles that carry them do exaggerate the range, but not by too much. The R-77-1 in a straight shot is better than the AMRAAM at range, but the slower Su-30 (seeing as the point of this thread is russia) platform would make it seem the AIM-120 has more range.

They are really nice as well with kinetic retaining, which is really nice when ur enemy is actually dodging or not flying your way, and u can still have nice chance of hitting.

They don’t need a nerf, everything else need to be buffed at some point, cause like we can’t actually get PL15 or AAM4B for a while, so some countries will be stuck with nothing when new missiles come in like AMRAAMC5.

I agreee the aim 120 needs a nerf