Move Wyvern S4 to 4.7 5.0 or 5.3. PLEASE

I am, useless you are!

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Still bloody MILES away from the sea hunter or sea master title.
its like 5000 torpedo kills or something. crazy.

Fortunately every map has targets to take out… cough…

Dude’s just a salty fighter jock that treats the game like it’s CoD or CS and eternally rages about nobody caring much about his stats or foolish opinions. He’s like that one obnoxious bench warmer that wasn’t good enough to join an Esports team so he takes his own humiliation out on others.

He’s not the only one here in the forums, but he’s always been the loudest.

Anyways, Wyvern could lose the airspawn and be fine. Doesn’t need an uptier. Alternatively, airspawn for strike aircraft could be adjusted to reduce the starting alt by about 25%, and go from there.

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Yeah, I agree. Its current BR is fine. Only thing of note about it is the large amount of 20mm ammo.

Airspawn removal, forward airfield spawn or some form of airspawn tweak is all it needs.

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Agreed.

Exactly. Arguing makes no sense and is just a waste of time.

  1. Everybody with more than 10 days of fighter experience can dominate lobbies by using the right plane and the right tactic / strategy - simply based on the fact that 99% of their enemies are clueless.

  2. There is simply no challenge for more demanding players to seal club.

  3. In order to justify these narrow minded views (kill, kill, kill…) all kinds of straw men arguments were pulled out - just in order to justify their binary (kill = good, no kill = not good) view on things.

Outside this mindset i do agree that playing other plane classes than fighters (and some undertiered op strike fighters or bombers) is way more demanding and suited to create actual fun, even if the fun is rather limited by the current state of Air RB.

  • So i am always happy if i manage to outsmart those guys - even if this happens just in 3-5% of my matches. The overwhelming majority of these kill driven guys is trapped in their kill driven play style and lacks the cognitive abilities to deal with complex decision making necessities.

  • And therefore i am happy too if i see other guys with a similar mindset being able to beat the odds.

And regarding Wyverns:

  • At least ban them from Pacific maps - there is not a singe JP plane able to catch a Wyvern at the BR of 4.3 - either due to lack of top speed or due to way too low dive speeds compared to Wyverns. The only chance to kill a Wyvern is when they were flown by rookies - a semi-competent player in a Wyvern is untouchable on these maps.

  • So even as i am a friend of pure JP vs US/UK lobbies - the Wyvern is way too op there simply based on the raw plane performance - and due to the way too high BRs of JP planes in general.

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It’s no secret that bombers and many attackers have been reduced to essentially being dead weight, as Gaijin has time and time again made changes to the aircraft and game mechanics that have only served to benefit fighters. It’s honestly damn sad that it ever happened in the first place and the ball needs to be reset.

The maps, bases and objective placements need to be changed - Made larger in number and more spread out from the middle. The ticket system needs a review, with the AI seeing changes accordingly so that they have an impact on the match that is symmetrical for both teams without being oppressive - Provided the teams don’t just outright ignore them.

All aircraft classes should naturally have a place and the ability to contribute in the match and Gaijin has long lost the plot on that. We need to get back to that.

That’s what will really remind these fighter jocks that the game isn’t at all just about them and their petty KDR chasing, and that they can take that attitude back to WoWP.

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I have chinese air, at level 4 it must be all branches of tech tree researched, so I have to grind the bomber line, which using the PBY4 and Tu2s have higher research points. Plus I do not want to grind using La9 as you have 200 rounds.

200 of 23mm is plenty of ammo, enough to score 4 kills with quite liberal use.

Yeah but they can’t dogfight since the maneuverability is sacrificed for the extra fuel tanks, which results in low energy preservation and you can’t dogfight with mustangs, spitfires or BF109s, Yak9s will have the upper hand as well, so it is really limited with 1 or two kills when you dive down.

I think you can dogfight vs Bf 109s and Mustangs just fine.

Also La-9 has 300 ammo. It’s not a good plane, though. I’ve seen Tu-2S dogfighting my Ta-152H and well, actually he almost got me. So it’s not like Tu-2S has to stick with being a ground pounder, it can intercept bombers and even dogfight just fine, of course being able to use gunners while maneuvering helps a lot (I can’t but if someone does - oh boy, I’d be so dead).

Hello everybody!

I also think that the Wyvern should go up in BR. But I also think that the Wyvern must not touch the 4.0 BR planes.
Why? Because:

  • Fastest plane in that BR
  • You can’t reach, only if you dive from ~2000 metres higher than the Wyvern. (Not always possible.)
  • Has very precise guns, can destroy your planes from 1 km.
  • Has very good manouverabaility, you can’t avoid it’s head-on attack

So in this case, the only the 5.3 or 5.7 BR would be acceptable. And As Soon As Possible!!

It can do what it likes in Air battles but in GRB it should stay as it is.

Furthermore you can’t execute the task where you have to win a battle with first strike. It’s nearly impossible in 4.0.

It’s an obvious money maker for Gaijin, as the match-maker around 4.3 is flooded with them - particularly during grindy events like the F-14.

They won’t hurt sales by putting it at 5.3, which is where I think it belongs.

Maybe it might see 4.7 at some point in the future.

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The only planes I have issues with when playing Wyvern and Yak-3s and Lavochkins, but to a way lesser extrnt than Yaks.
Yak-3 can pull 10g, barely bleed any speed and then 2-shot you with Berezin from 1000m away.

When I’m not facing Soviets? It’s happy shooting. Wyvern dominates 4.3
The only real problem it faces is suicidial Do-335.

yep. in GRB, it actually matters more to have maneuverabilty. and when attacking ground units in GRB, speed can’t really save ur ass (especially not from those cheating Ostwind II)

and it should be moved 5.3, indeed.
but putting it 5.3 will hurt those crybabies’ feelings. which makes it reasonable to call out for removing air spawn (wyvern players are probably stupid enough not to notice it)

if you cannot utilize its outrageous speed and air spawn advantage then it’s 100% your skill issue

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