Sorry, this may not be about Wyvern but rather La 11… I know it is off topic but I was trying to say a vehicle with slower speed, base spawn and similar fire power is sitting in 5.3, that is not accounting the lack of bomb loadouts in comparison of wyvern. I also expressed that it carries same loadout whilst being much faster than B25, with higher firepower and maneuverability, which is obviously not just worth 0.3 BR.
indeed. evrything at or below 5.0 is more or less a joke compared to wyvern.
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I mean La 11 at 5.3 is a bad example, but at least shows that it is not fair for an arguably better plane to be 1 BR lower.
I find this topic rather amusing to say the least. As someone thats has owned the plane since it was a BR of 5.0, before its engine nerf ( yea it lost engine power and still hasn’t gotten it back ) I get slightly giddy seeing all the same issues people had fighting it back then resurficing.
Gj could give it back its old engine power and place it back at 5.0 and I’d be more then happy.
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Still the same. It should be 5.3.
You can only destroy wyverns if you found a player who was scissoring or turnfighring instead of BnZ- ing with it.
2025 wyvern still destroy 4.3 br
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Wyvern use to be 4.7 along time ago. They moved it down.
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So - the pay to win Wyvern (a 50s plane in ww2 ho hum). Even n00bs have been buying it recently judging by their level so even these guys can ignore when some poor lumbering bomber marks a target, tries to go for it and the sad, selfish wyvern player just ignores him and proceeds to the target anyway.
It’s fine if they mark the target first, but they know they can get there before anyone else and are just rude and non-team players. Don’t know about you but I feel like ramming or shooting their asses down.
There should be a system to stop this whereby whoever marks the target first gets 100% of the points for bombing it. If he dies before getting there this is reset. If some sado wyvern ignores that the target has been marked and they bomb it they only get 50%.
It really ruins the game for bombers this, and if you are flying one usually gets you shot down as you try to get another target.
Those who use a wyvern are probably most hated for this reason. They usually arent team players.
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Just add more bombing targets/make them respawn quicker. Problem solved, end of story
Wrong
Wrong. Nobody hates wyvern players. You are just projecting. You do not even see that many wyverns in the first place
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Serious? lol
What’s about players spawning a second too late?
What’s about you get killed before dropping bombs?
What’s about all those players marking wrong bases?
What’s about you are not able to destroy the whole base because of loadout?
Deal with it that you are not the only one able to bomb and nothing in this game is specific for you.
I tried a lot of times on specific maps damaging 2 bases, so bombers can do the rest and get rewards too. Guess what? Most of the time these bases were not destroyed.
I definitly will never fly with my full loadout around only to wait for players with 1/3 the speed of mine to get their rewards and not able to do anything else to the battle.
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I hate Wyvern players. Most bomb bases and ignore their team. I also hate fighter-Wyvern players as they are a pain in the ass to deal with.
I’m a Wyvern player and I hate myself for what I have become.
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Nope, right actually. Most of the negative chat is directed at Wyvern players for exactly the reason I gave.
Wrong again Hudler on the pay to win. You have to PAY to own a 1950s aircraft and have it in 1940s battles. Did you perhaps get yours free somehow?
Guess you’re just one of these people that like doing what I stated (i.e. ignore the team because you can do whatever you want in a Wyvern).
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Deal with it? You sound like a kid who doesn’t fly lumbering bombers because you want to be Maverick all the time!
There are ways around the problems you stated, and you didn’t read or understand what I said at all, did you? Whoever marks the target 1st gets 100% of the reward for bombing it. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE COMMENT BEFORE GOING OFF ON ONE. THANKS.
I don’t think it’s bad if you are a Wyvern team player at all. Of course you want a bit of extra power if you pay for it. That’s normal. But a team of mostly Wyverns (ive seen six at once) and XP50s really can’t be beat.
It’s just the players who vex others by bending the rules because they can. You be impolite and go bomb a target marked by a B17 in your team results in slow him adjusting late on perhaps and if you do that in any heavy bomber you usually get shot down and have no points. It’s just selfish. Just because “you can” doesn’t mean “you should”. Play for the team and try to help everyone score.
I also have no problem with the Wyvern player marking the target first to that the heavy bombers know their intensions. That way they can react accordingly, adjusting to another target which increases their survivability and or ability to score.
Its supposed to be a team game after all. Think of the poor Israeli B17 that has to wait 6 days for a free repair after getting shot down because he had to adjust his course to try to get some points.
Giving someone who had not marked the strategic target they bombed first may make such players think twice about doing so and may even bring a bit of order (rather than chaos) to the team.
Do you have the same behaviour in battle like talking to people here?
So I hope there is a Wyvern every battle you join with your bomber.
Year of service means absolutely nothing. It has relative speed to most other aircraft at that BR and worse turn performance than the Spitfires at the same BR. Only thing of notable strength is the large ammo count of 20mm Hispanos.
But they are no more spammed or annoying than say the JU-288C at 6.0 is.
This isnt the Wyverns fault. Try playing a Tornado when the bases are just killed by Mig-23MLs and F-4S dropping Napalm on all the bases. This is just a gamemode problem. Heck. I’ve had this exact same issue, in heavy bombers at BRs where there are no Wyverns.
Blaming the Wyvern and wanting it nerfed or the players who have bought it punished because “I cant bomb in B-17” is just a little selfish.
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BR are not historical, and is not tied to years of production. Thats why you have 1980 tank fighting 1940 tanks, and thats why you have 1950s plane fighting 1940s tanks
And it is not pay to win, because wyvern is balanced where it is.
There is literally none negative chat directed at wyvern players
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True, but everyone rather blame players or want to nerf specific planes instead of trying to force gjn to change anything.
Limitation of plane sorts would be an easy change, we talked about a lot, but gjn ignores it over years.
Additionally, especially at high tiers, a working loadout view in the scoreboard would help somewhat. Bug reported many times, totally ignored.
Wyvern is under-tiered and we all know it. Wyvern is pay to win and we all know that too (few fighters can even catch one at the BR its at - and if you don’t happen to have one that can left in your team you are screwed).
No actually - I tended to mouth off much more at team killers. Don’t know what games you’ve been playing, but I guess you mustn’t have paid much attention to the chat in relation to Wyvern players stealing bomber targets (you were probably the one doing it). If some poor bomber pilot marks a target you will sometimes even see a Wyvern change course just to annoy him.
Of course there are problems in higher tiers with aircraft like the Tornado. I’m not saying there aren’t.
And tier DOES matter! Of course it does. Move the Wyvern up a little and it causes less problems. Moreover, LIMIT th4e number allowed in a game to a max of 4 or something and it gives their opponents more of a chance. Ever seen how long a game lasts when 4-6 Wyverns are ground attacking?
Look, I offered a solution to these problems based on who marks the targets first. The nice thing about that is it applies to ANY aircraft at any tier. Its key advantage? The lumbering bomber knows in advance that the target is already marked and can adjust accordingly. If, as a bomber pilot, you have to make some sort of course adjustment half way through your run then you are basically screwed. You have a chance if you know what you are doing at the start of the game. War thunder isn’t just about fighters, though it may be to some of you mavericks.
Anyone who doesn’t get irked by Wyverns stealing bases obviously doesn’t fly bombers, nor care about developing that line.
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