Move Wyvern S4 to 4.7 5.0 or 5.3. PLEASE

As you say, BR position in GF is less relevant to “results”. Wyvern just happens to be GBs earliest 2 drop prop.

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I’m not being rude. That’s the sad reality of most bomber/attacker team exploiters.

Fighter scrub usually improves over time and tries to win.
Bomber/attacker dudebros deliberately drag their team down

What a ridiculous statement.

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Sure, exploiters. We just don’t need to focus on them is all, as I wasn’t.

It’s hard to call a “be useless and keep losing unless the team carries you” a legit playstyle.
Just like knife + glock is not really a proper CS GO playstyle, even though of course you can do that in every game, along with flashbanging your own team, because why the hell not.

B-25’s only role is an easy kill.

As a bomber I can impact the ticket bleed.
Certain maps have objectives that can dictate the outcome of the match, some of which can only be achieved by a bomber or attacker.

As a bomber I can kill other players.
As a bomber I can occupy the enemy while my team climbs to get an advantage.

Scrubs can play all types. I know you are being very specific but just not totally helpful in discussion which is more general.

I sure do wish we were all aligned regarding “team” but this is reality and beyond “exploiters” the differing players will always muddy how this turns out.

He is being super specific I believe, so really a sub set of certain plane use.

Bomber has minimal impact on tickets. Also ticket wins are something that just happens. Unlike fighter on fighter.crime, you can’t really plan around it, because of vastly different attacker capability and amount between the 2 teams - it’s basically a norm.

Any counter-attacker gameplan is by default wrong and actually greatly inceeases chances of.losing the PvP aspect.

So outside of select few planes (that basically break the game if used right) it’s just not worth it to pursue tickets or enemy attackers.

I have over 400 games in Wyvern. Around 1100 air to air kills. And 20 ground kills with 80% WR.

I think the mode needs a redesign, instead of trying to “balance” attackers and bombers and “giving them a fighting chance”.

you’ve lost me now.
Have no idea what your talking about.

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He plays a certain way.

To him it is the only way anyone should, contrary to the game.

I help.my team and I’m using playstyle that actually works instead of one that clearly doesn’t.

And I do that also, has it occurred to you that maybe it’s just that YOU lack the ability to be useful in anything other than a fighting capacity.
And myself and others are simply more versatile than you.

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Dude show me the results and then we’ll talk. Your AD-2 vs my AD-2. Your AD-4 vs mine. Your Wyvern/Do-335 vs mine. Your Fw 190 F8 vs my Fw 190 F8. And then we’ll talk about “versatility”. If “versatile” means ineffective, you’re just sabotaging your team.

Also my dog would be able to “skillfully ground pound” in WT, so even trying to make an argument to somehow treat GP as equal to PvP is ridiculous.

And how would I do that Mr?
I dont think it’s very fair to malign a large part of the community as “useless” just because you dont like what vehicles they use or strategies they use.
Maybe if you were a better pilot you could overcome that :)

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How? By showing me your results. I’m in-game under the same name, so go ahead and take a look.

In every game there are cheaters, abusers, griefers, teamkillers etc.
Same happens in WT, where playing a bomber is not only ruining your team’s effort, but also benefits the griefer, who then can climb to space and extend almost every game to 25m, wasting time of hundreds od people a day, and bombers can be easily flown by bots too, with almost the same effectiveness as human space pressers.

The fact that bombers and attackers require almost 0 skill only adds to the issue.

That is a very narrowminded outlook.

Who are these griefers?

Sounds very much like a you problem.

Instead of me being a bomber, I could be a TA-152 who just dove to ground level to kill a half dead fighter instead of taking alt superiority.
I could be in a zero and headon a p47.
I could be in a fighter and shoulder shooting friendlies to desperately get the kill.

Intentional or not.

You are only thinking of kills, and frankly, you could replicate kills with an attacker - which you are so against for being useless.

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Not that part. I’m sure you do and I support that aspect of your playstyle, personally.

Professionals are also rubbish for team and team play, stopping others from gaining progress/learning with people as high skilled players dominate matches aka “seal clubbing”.

Again, no issue as play what you like is a positive but understand the overall picture. Tryharding is niche, much more niche than casual and fun.

And stat bashing is stat bashing. Only tryhards care.

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In your opinion, not facts.

Being a bomber doesnt make you a griefer and if people dont want to fight in attacker - then so be it, it’s their choice and no, its not useless.

Dont get me wrong, I would value having you on my team, but a griefer is totally different from someone just doing something you dont like, which is what you are saying.

You can flex your Wyvern stats, but I know more than you give me credit for, such as how you go after the easy targets and rely on an extremely undertiered premium aircraft to do it, but that is besides the point.

Your inability to differentiate between a griefer and someone just doing something they like to do is not a good look mate.

I like to bomb and torpedo strike, are you calling me useless?

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