He plays a certain way.
To him it is the only way anyone should, contrary to the game.
I help.my team and I’m using playstyle that actually works instead of one that clearly doesn’t.
And I do that also, has it occurred to you that maybe it’s just that YOU lack the ability to be useful in anything other than a fighting capacity.
And myself and others are simply more versatile than you.
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Dude show me the results and then we’ll talk. Your AD-2 vs my AD-2. Your AD-4 vs mine. Your Wyvern/Do-335 vs mine. Your Fw 190 F8 vs my Fw 190 F8. And then we’ll talk about “versatility”. If “versatile” means ineffective, you’re just sabotaging your team.
Also my dog would be able to “skillfully ground pound” in WT, so even trying to make an argument to somehow treat GP as equal to PvP is ridiculous.
And how would I do that Mr?
I dont think it’s very fair to malign a large part of the community as “useless” just because you dont like what vehicles they use or strategies they use.
Maybe if you were a better pilot you could overcome that :)
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How? By showing me your results. I’m in-game under the same name, so go ahead and take a look.
In every game there are cheaters, abusers, griefers, teamkillers etc.
Same happens in WT, where playing a bomber is not only ruining your team’s effort, but also benefits the griefer, who then can climb to space and extend almost every game to 25m, wasting time of hundreds od people a day, and bombers can be easily flown by bots too, with almost the same effectiveness as human space pressers.
The fact that bombers and attackers require almost 0 skill only adds to the issue.
That is a very narrowminded outlook.
Who are these griefers?
Sounds very much like a you problem.
Instead of me being a bomber, I could be a TA-152 who just dove to ground level to kill a half dead fighter instead of taking alt superiority.
I could be in a zero and headon a p47.
I could be in a fighter and shoulder shooting friendlies to desperately get the kill.
Intentional or not.
You are only thinking of kills, and frankly, you could replicate kills with an attacker - which you are so against for being useless.
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Not that part. I’m sure you do and I support that aspect of your playstyle, personally.
Professionals are also rubbish for team and team play, stopping others from gaining progress/learning with people as high skilled players dominate matches aka “seal clubbing”.
Again, no issue as play what you like is a positive but understand the overall picture. Tryharding is niche, much more niche than casual and fun.
And stat bashing is stat bashing. Only tryhards care.
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In your opinion, not facts.
Being a bomber doesnt make you a griefer and if people dont want to fight in attacker - then so be it, it’s their choice and no, its not useless.
Dont get me wrong, I would value having you on my team, but a griefer is totally different from someone just doing something you dont like, which is what you are saying.
You can flex your Wyvern stats, but I know more than you give me credit for, such as how you go after the easy targets and rely on an extremely undertiered premium aircraft to do it, but that is besides the point.
Your inability to differentiate between a griefer and someone just doing something they like to do is not a good look mate.
I like to bomb and torpedo strike, are you calling me useless?
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I am, useless you are!
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Still bloody MILES away from the sea hunter or sea master title.
its like 5000 torpedo kills or something. crazy.
Fortunately every map has targets to take out… cough…
Dude’s just a salty fighter jock that treats the game like it’s CoD or CS and eternally rages about nobody caring much about his stats or foolish opinions. He’s like that one obnoxious bench warmer that wasn’t good enough to join an Esports team so he takes his own humiliation out on others.
He’s not the only one here in the forums, but he’s always been the loudest.
Anyways, Wyvern could lose the airspawn and be fine. Doesn’t need an uptier. Alternatively, airspawn for strike aircraft could be adjusted to reduce the starting alt by about 25%, and go from there.
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Yeah, I agree. Its current BR is fine. Only thing of note about it is the large amount of 20mm ammo.
Airspawn removal, forward airfield spawn or some form of airspawn tweak is all it needs.
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Agreed.
Exactly. Arguing makes no sense and is just a waste of time.
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Everybody with more than 10 days of fighter experience can dominate lobbies by using the right plane and the right tactic / strategy - simply based on the fact that 99% of their enemies are clueless.
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There is simply no challenge for more demanding players to seal club.
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In order to justify these narrow minded views (kill, kill, kill…) all kinds of straw men arguments were pulled out - just in order to justify their binary (kill = good, no kill = not good) view on things.
Outside this mindset i do agree that playing other plane classes than fighters (and some undertiered op strike fighters or bombers) is way more demanding and suited to create actual fun, even if the fun is rather limited by the current state of Air RB.
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So i am always happy if i manage to outsmart those guys - even if this happens just in 3-5% of my matches. The overwhelming majority of these kill driven guys is trapped in their kill driven play style and lacks the cognitive abilities to deal with complex decision making necessities.
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And therefore i am happy too if i see other guys with a similar mindset being able to beat the odds.
And regarding Wyverns:
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At least ban them from Pacific maps - there is not a singe JP plane able to catch a Wyvern at the BR of 4.3 - either due to lack of top speed or due to way too low dive speeds compared to Wyverns. The only chance to kill a Wyvern is when they were flown by rookies - a semi-competent player in a Wyvern is untouchable on these maps.
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So even as i am a friend of pure JP vs US/UK lobbies - the Wyvern is way too op there simply based on the raw plane performance - and due to the way too high BRs of JP planes in general.
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It’s no secret that bombers and many attackers have been reduced to essentially being dead weight, as Gaijin has time and time again made changes to the aircraft and game mechanics that have only served to benefit fighters. It’s honestly damn sad that it ever happened in the first place and the ball needs to be reset.
The maps, bases and objective placements need to be changed - Made larger in number and more spread out from the middle. The ticket system needs a review, with the AI seeing changes accordingly so that they have an impact on the match that is symmetrical for both teams without being oppressive - Provided the teams don’t just outright ignore them.
All aircraft classes should naturally have a place and the ability to contribute in the match and Gaijin has long lost the plot on that. We need to get back to that.
That’s what will really remind these fighter jocks that the game isn’t at all just about them and their petty KDR chasing, and that they can take that attitude back to WoWP.
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I have chinese air, at level 4 it must be all branches of tech tree researched, so I have to grind the bomber line, which using the PBY4 and Tu2s have higher research points. Plus I do not want to grind using La9 as you have 200 rounds.
200 of 23mm is plenty of ammo, enough to score 4 kills with quite liberal use.
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