Move the J35XS back to 10.7

Oh, I see. You are simply opposed to it going up. In that case argue with everyone else in this thread, and not me exclusively. Also, make actual arguments instead of whatever nonsense this is.

The J35XS might have issues fighting Mig-23s, but by that same argument the 9.7 premiums should go down to 9.0 because they suffer fighting the J35XS at 10.3.

10.3 is too low for a supersonic aircraft with 6x half decent AAMs, a half decent FM and actually 12 flares, more than many when it gets a downtier.

Sure it would be DOA at 11.0 where it probably should actually be when looking at downtiers, but 10.7 would be fine for it and would place it onpar with things like the F-5C

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If it goes up its get fucked, at it’s current placement its killing flareless left and right, at this point if it need to go up it better goes up with every single addition it has in the service of Ilmavoimat before it can go up again.

That or just remove this shit altogether and give Sweden J35Ö at 11.0 because XS is in a very stupid place right now.

idk about this. this plane can turn sure but it cant really dogfight like F-5 or have dogfight capable gun like F-5. it’s saving grace is 6 9J and even then it’s a very dodgeable missile in the grand scheme of things.

That said, this plane can definitely go up to 10.7, of course with many of it’s missing equipment added.

Sure, if it can gets buffs too then all for it, but I would still say that its better for the J35XS to have a rough time in a full uptiers but still do well at all other times than it is to curb stomp in pretty much every match.

Now I do not play those 9.3/9.7 aircraft anymore in ARB because I got fed up of the uptiers to 10.3 and 10.7. But I cant imagine trying to fight something like a J35XS in a Hunter FGA9 or similar.

Subsonic, no CMs and 2x Aim-9Es vs supersonic, with CMs and 6x Aim-9Js. That is a one sided fight.

(I also think the F-5 needs either a BR increase or a healthy nerf at some point)

oh yeah. sitting at 10,7 is just right for draken, my issue stays with the fact that a lot of its belongings are practically gone swallowed by the wind, hence why I prefer if they use Austrian draken with 9P5 at 12.3 to compensate with the IRCCM missile it got instead of Finnish draken which is practically blind and sit in the schrodinger broken status where it either struggle as shit or breeze through everything.

speaking of Hunter I think it’s due for britain (or China for lulz) to get Singaporean Hunter with 4 AIM-9G and Avionics and CM upgrades. F.58 need some competitions and F.74 is definitely up there.

They wont ever change a premium into an entirely different premium and increase its BR 2 full points.

Yeah… would be nice if Britain got a good Hunter. So far the best are in French and German trees (especially in ASB where the Hunter F1 and Hunter F6 are the same BR)

they can always do the good ol delist - add new, nobody gonna hurt much from losing XS in favour of O.

That is entirely different. Sure, they could add the Austrian J35 at an entirely different BR either as TT or premium as an alternative option but that wont have any affect on the J35XS.

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And it would be nice if it wasn’t a damn premium/event. though I think premium rank 7 hunter at 10.3/10.7 (Alphajet late BR is 10.7 with alphajet FM) with 4 AIM-9G would sell like hotcakes it gonna give ayit a new competition.

I always seen XS as stopgap premium where they would introduce better draken. turns out they want to keep the shitty draken shitty. well what could i do.

For that for Britain, a Hawk would be better.

Sure would love the Oman or Singapore Hunter, but there are other options. 4x 9Gs on a subsonic at 10.7 would suck when a Hawk with 2x 9Ls (or 4x 9Ls or even 4x 9Ls and 2x Skyflash) is available

Hawk would also be an excellent addition for the Finnish TT too.

eeeh…

Hawk 200 with 4 AIM-9L. 11.0

But it shouldn’t have been 10.3 in the first place, it did fine at 10.7 1 year ago, back then F14 was 11.7. It never belonged to 10.3 so the ‘compression’ argument doesn’t apply, that applies to most aircrafts and will benefit everyone, but this is just a case that is not influenced by compression at all.

I think the FM changes just fucked it hard? if it gets its old FM back it may survive better in 10.7 or even goes to 11.0

It’s still the best FM below 11.0 by far. J7D is the only contender. J7D in 10.7 is under tier’d and should go 11.3 if decompression allows.

nah this is just crazy. people just forgot how to fight MiG-21 they want a plane with shitty RWR with bad radar and rear aspect missile play at 11.3, it need at least some form of fuckin radar missile/Good missile in general/excellent FM/working radar/decent RWR/combination of some but not all to play in that BR. you want a plane whose only good point ends at “Good rear aspect missile” to play at SARH BR without the fucking sarh or the flight performance or the radar or the fucking RWR to properly compete. may your next 50 games is just instant death without earning shit.

I said with reasonable decompression. 14.7 if not 15.0 for top tier. J35XS I have seen 6.0+ K/D with extremely strong players, and this is simply a plane undefeatable for MiG17+9B which does exist in 9.3. 10.7 is not a bad BR, max u will get MiG 23s and for the most part easy Tornados.