What are ur keybinds for the radar?
Hello. My keybinds are the following:
Target selection: Alt +T
Lock the Radar/IRST on target: Alt +F
Activate/deactivate radar scan: Alt + R
Change radar mode: Alt +B
Change radar scan mode: Alt + D
(fire missile: Alt+ Ctrl)
I may have a conflict Alt + F with another keybind from another program, but I have checked and so far this key is only assigned to War Thunder application
When I start in RB with Mig-23M I don’t touch anything I just select type of missile and do Alt +F to go from locked target to another locked target. However as I said I have to repeatedly press Alt+ F many times to get a lock.
Yes, the best loadout at its BR, what makes the R-60M worse than rear aspect missiles? Altrough it lacks the range of an 9G, lets say, it is still all aspect and far more manouverable. Both are easy to 1 flare so flare resistance is irrelevant
The Mig-23 is just as fast and rinses the Kfir in a dogfight because of better energy retention, what the hell are you on about?
Why do you keep comparing the su-27 with the mig-23 mld? The su-27 is 13.0. You need to compare the MLD to other 12.0, if the MLD is the same or better in effectiveness as 12.0 jets, its a clear indication that it belongs there too.
How hard is it to understand?
R-60M has no range, that’s the problem.
except u launch it above ur target or at extremely short range (-2km) it’s mostly going to miss, especially if the enemy decides to barrel roll it, which will drain all it’s energy in a sec.
Kfir C.7 is lighter and has stronger engine than the MiG-23, i was able of defeating one of my TEEF squadmates who was playing in the F-16A (which is a way better plane for dogfights than the MiG-23).
however it should be 11.7 or even 11.3.
ur brain can’t see what the Flogger can face and can only see what the Flogger will face?
if it’s 12.0 it can face Su-27 in an uptier, that counts too, but u don’t want to admit it or u can’t see the problem there.
it’s like saying MF1CT deserves 12.3 just cuz it has Magic 2s while ignoring it can face Su-30MK2 with Fox-3s.
how hard is it for u to play a 12.0 battle in the MiG-23MLD and tell me how bad would it be to have it at 12.0 AND face 13.0 in an uptier?
u’re doing everything but doing what i say, if u can’t prove the average MiG-23MLD player can do good at 12.0, then it shouldn’t go to 12.0.
the fact u got a 3.0 K/D in a plane u have played for less than 100 matches doesn’t justify it should get a higher BR, that’s just u being lucky or good with the plane and that’s all, it doesn’t mean the plane is good.
i have 2.9 K/D in the Mirage IIIC which sits at 10.0 and i have played less than 60 matches, that doesn’t mean the plane is good or it should go to 10.3, it just means i got lucky or i’m skilled with that plane in specific.
literally just see my stats of the A21A-3! 4.0 K/D!
that doesn’t mean the plane is good at all, and people still say it’s a bad plane due to the maneuverability, which i can’t see at all, and i’m not saying it should go up in BR just cuz i usually get 2/3 kills per battle.
i don’t understand nothing of this keybinds, and they look pretty confusing to use.
u probably just have issues using the keybinds while flying the plane at the same time.
i can show u my keybinds if u need, tho they aren’t that spectacular and they will require some practice till u get used to them.
Yes please do show me your keybind settings
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The MLD could go to 12.0, but the ML/A should never go to 12.0 as long as ARH missiles exist there (especially since SPO-10 is basically the worst RWR in the game). Or even just the fact that PD radars nearly become the default at 12.3.
Aim-9L Tornados should all be 11.0.
Aim-9M ones should be 12.0.
Many other planes are questionably placed with legacy BRs because Gaijin is insistent on moving good planes down (F-16A OCU/F-15A), and nothing will change because people defend their overpowered aircraft despite worse ones existing at a higher BR.
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Is it?
I think the F-104S ASA has it beat there.
Maybe you don’t know how and when to properly use them even after 400+ matches. Rear aspect missiles are far more limited by the simple fact that you got to position yourself at the rear of a target. Its very hard to fire a rear aspect missile while being unnoticed comparing to using R-60M (fast acceleration and quick burn time) or AIM-9L (longer range but longer burn time and slower acceleration). For me, the R-60M is preferable to carrying rear aspect missiles, except maybe the PL-5B. I even prefer the R-60M over the 9L if I want to play aggressively into furballs.
Lighter doesn’t mean much, the Mig-23 achieves much better energy retention despite lower TWR
I don’t know what you intended to prove with this, except that saying your squadmates are absolutelly clueless in a dogfight since there is no way to lose to a kfir in a F-16 except in a headon lol
ur brain can’t see what 10.7 can see the flogger? Same argument
Stop comparing to jets 1.0+ BR away from it. We need to balance the Mig-23MLD according to the jets that SHARE its BR
True, I forgot about that. Outside of that and SPO-2, and maybe the Viggens RWR I can’t think of any worse ones.
Well… there is also the J35XS if that even counts :D
Kfir Canard as well I think isnt amazing either or something, I could ahve sworn there was an Israeli jet around that BR that had some issues in the RWR department but cant properly recall which
And the apha jet th constantly faces SARHs without RWR too
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good for u, imo R-60M sucks and it’s the most situational missile ever made.
since i have pretty few knowledge between Flogger and Kfir, go duel somebody in a Kfir and come back to tell me the results, at least imo the Kfir is very good for dogfights but sucks where it is rn since the Python 3s aren’t a good excuse to keep it at 12.0 facing SARH missiles or even IRCCM missiles.
TEEF squadmates are some of the best ones, if u didn’t know.
and yes, u can win in a Kfir against a F-16A, didn’t u say the MiG-23 can win against the Su-27 even when the Su-27 is better at everything? u said it’s a threat to it, tho it only has 2 useable missiles, so Kfir C.7 can win against F-16A in a dogfight due to it being pretty much the same but lighter than the F-16A.
most 10.7 aircraft don’t suffer against the MiG-23MLD.
F-8E has 60CM, F-111A has 52CM, japanese F-5A has 90LCCM (30LCCM more than the MiG-23MLD), chinese F-5A has 60CM, Mirage IIIE has 45CM (30CM + 15LCCM).
that are pretty much the most used 10.7 jets, and none of them suffer from the MiG-23MLD. as i said, the only lethal weapon of the MiG-23MLD are the R-24R, and it only carries 2, which means after u use them, u’re pretty much just a dogfighter limited to 4 R-60Ms with limited range and non-existant flare resistance.
if ur argument is that the Flogger faces “10.7 aircraft”, my argument is that the Flogger would face 13.0 aircraft if it was 12.0, and no, it’s performance is not comparable to a 12.0 aircraft: F-4J has more missiles, better radar and HMD (which is unnecessary/useless at that BR, but at least it has it), and the Flogger is not comparable to it in any other way than in dogfights, which at 12.0 are basically non-existant since u’re more near from missile spam than from dogfight simulator.
except they give it some kind of R-73 (which technically is capable of carrying) or 2 more R-24R, it will stay at 11.7 forever, it doesn’t deserve facing 12.0/13.0 aircraft at all.
if they give it 2 R-73 (4 missiles in total), i would accept it being 12.0.
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again, give it R-73 and i will see it fair at 12.0.
I figured that out already but thanks for pointing it out.
Refer to the above
We agree on this, its a 11.7 jet at best. MLD is far better
Idk about that, you seemed to indicate otherwise just now.
Maybe if some of those amazing squadmates of yours are flying the F-16? sure I guess lol
No. I didn’t.
I said the MLD is more of a threat to it than the 12.3 F-16A. Stop distorting my words.
I forgot to mention that the su-27 RWR can’t detect J band radar locks (just like the mig-23 cannot detect other mig-23 shooting SARHs), which further proves my point.
Of all the wrong things you said, this one might take the cake.
No… forget about that, this one takes the cake!
mig23ml is intentionaly made to have trash games lately so ppl buy the su30