Mig-21 Bison needs to increase the BR to 12.7 or 13

It would be easy to convince people if you actually had convincing arguments.

Because saying this about the F-16A seems like more of a player issue than a F-16 issue.

I have played the F-16A, Mirage 2000C-S5 and MiG-21 Bison at 12.3 and if I had to pick what to play the Bison would always be third place.

Hell even if you change the S5 for the S4 (seeing as the S5 is now 12.7), the Bison would still be third place for me.

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Congrats, you totally missed the entire point of the post.

Is this your first time using the internet?

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So you just proved to us that your argument doesn’t have any value and doesn’t prove anything beside it match your personal confirmation bias then ? Lmao , xd even

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BRUH

mig 21 bison, with the mig21 bis model with radar and HMD 39 is very op according to you, they would need to go up to 12.7 or 13.
But a plane with an FM comparable to the 14.0 plane in the 12.3 is easily acceptable.
I already saw the joke ready (edit ; I’m referring to the post and not the player)

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with 4x aim 120 and 2x aim9m…
you are a pit of contradictions zzz

Hmmm… almost like at top tier dogfights hardly ever happens to actually use that flight model…

What was the joke? Pasting a laughing cat meme doesn’t make you funi

EDIT: Ariete has amazing flight model, let’s make it 13.0, AV-8B+ has terrible flight model and is subsonic, so 12.3 it is. That’s your logic, if you can call it that.

Here he comes again with completely absurd comparisons, without any equivalences.

In the 12.3, yes, they happen, but the Fm is not just for dogfighting, notching with an f16 is infinitely easier than with a mig 21, Fm is not just about your performance in a dogfight, it is about all the plane’s flight characteristics, be it evasive maneuvering, energy conservation, among others, the fm of the f16 helps it from combat with missiles to dogfighting.
In terms of flight performance, the F16 is only below the Rafale and the EF.

I already said, my statistics reflect my personal performance, not the overall performance of an airplane.

and you must have some fetish with my profile hahahaha

Do not post stats of users in order to make fun of them, etc

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How’s calling one’s bs is making fun of them? I didn’t make “fun” of him on my first post, simply stated a fact that people lie and his stats does not back up his claims, why did it got hidden?

when and where ?

Posting stats of other users can lead to attempt of silencing, which doesn’t really go well with the guidelines. I can understand that you want to expose other peoples performance, but this ain’t it.

Language was also a factor of the removal.

So, posting a laughting cat meme at someone isn’t considered making fun someone, but submitting a theoretical claim about someone lying and posting stats that shows exactly that is enough for a removal? There was nothing inherently offensive or insulting about that post.

“Imagine being so insecure”

“Only joke here is you and can’t believe these moderators letting you get away with spreading bs like this.”

“Go on, report this too lol. You’re the only joke here”

I don’t think I have to explain, as I don’t want this to escalate further, as it’s just going to make things worse.

As for cat memes of being pointed and laughed at, well simply explained, we do not have eyes everywhere.

You can analyze all my posts in this topic, I’m not attacking you, I’m contesting your arguments, they are very different things.
I am always referring to your arguments, I did not make any personal attack on you, and if I was interpreted that way, I sincerely apologize, English is not my native language.

That was on my second post, after the first got hidden. I was understandably frustrated for this exact reason. What I was asking was the reason for the first post’s removal, if we are not allowed to post stats then there’s no way of proving anything and everyone can just claim their favorite vehicle is the worst in the game and manipulate the public opinion about these vehicles. Why the moderation team isn’t doing anything about this? There’s so much misinformation being spread here.

I wasn’t offended. Simply stated a fact that posting a laughing cat at someone is considered “making fun of them” and how is it that one get’s away with it and other, way less offensive one get’s taken down within few minutes.

They are just saying being right doesn’t mean people will let go of their false beliefs on the internet.

Reason due to the first post being removed because of the stats is because it can easily lead to “bullying”, mockery and such, as long as it’s not posted in a negative manner. There is pretty much no reason to post his stats in public. If you see a player is bad with a certain vehicle, then ignore him, you aren’t forced to respond.

As for the “quick removal”, as I already have said, we do not have eyes everywhere. A good amount of posts are removed because they were flagged, which you can also do. If you find a post which you deem not fitting, such as being innappropriate, then feel free to flag it (as long as it’s not false flagging ofc)

This will be my last comment about this.

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