Hi Gaijin,
My F-5T is constantly against Mig-21 Bison. F-5T only equipped with 2 python 3 NON-IRCCM while Mig-21 can have 4 R-73 IRCCM and/or r-27T/R with HMD and a lot of flare as well. These Mig-21 load out is comparable with German Mig-29G with BR 13.0.
It should be BR 13.0 as well.
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According to your theory,
F-5T 11.7 when.
These F-5T load out is comparable with Israel Kfir C.2 with BR 11.7
:/
MiG-21 Bison is a strong plane, but maybe not in Mirage 2000CS-5 (12.7BR) level thanks to the MiG-21 Fuselage and scare amount of CM.
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I agree. Just give me a few more weeks so I can finish the GB tree.
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What are you talking about, the Bison is currently perpetually at 13.0, it is a mig 21 that starts at 1350km/h and at the second turn you are at 300km/h.
It has good IR missiles and good countermeasures, end of story.
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Yes, it’s crazy how low BR Gaijin gave this thing. It also has PD radar +TWS and get’s downtiers all the time, was facing this thing on 90% of my matches with Mig-23ML that has just 2 R-24R’s with terrible SRC radar and RWR that doesn’t even ping from his missiles, I standed no chance against this thing. It even intercepted my radar missiles with R-73 and HMD, literally near impossible to beat this thing.
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This is straight up bullshit, this is the snail’s mouse wheel. You will see a lot of bison but when you play it I guarantee you that 11.7 is not the norm.
Moreover, the 12.3 support does not exist and 12.7 now without the IRIAF makes you go up to 13 perpetually.
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OP is conplaining about MiG-21 Bison while flying F-5T
and pointing weaponry as the only reason to need to be 13.0
Ignoring flight performance difference between MiG-29G and MiG-21 Bison.
So, I did a direct comparison between Kfir C.2 and F-5T with their weaponry only.
If OP claims that MiG-21 Bison need to be 13.0 thanks to R-73
Then F-5T also should be 11.7 with the same dumb theory.
As long as non-ARH versions of Mirage 2000’s are on 12.3~12.7 (DR-1/CS-4 on 12.3 and D-RMV/CS-5 on 12.7)
Sending MiG-21 Bison into 13.0 which is the same level as Su-27 or F-15A is nothing but a bullshit diabolical take.
MiG-21 Bison can’t carry 6x R-27ER.
Well, I admit that MiG-21 Bison in its current position is a bit too strong.
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Why would I lie lol? Almost every single match on Mig-23ML was against near full team of Mig-21Bisons and Persian F-14’s and Mirage F-1’s. All these are premium/event vehicles that were spammed ever since the sales. And ever since 14.0 was added, all 13.0’s get sucked into that and those below 13.0 get’s sucked into 11.7-12.7 premium matchmaker, it’s not a rocket science to figure this out.
EDIT: And even recently I was stock grinding 13.0 Su-27 and only faced Mig-21Bisons like 10%-20% of my matches at max. Why would you deny something that is so obvious.
This you say is because of the game’s own unhealthy system. You arrive at a BR and you see a plane dominate. You use it and it never makes those downgrades.
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This thing can dominate even on full uptiers, there’s no reason why it’s still 12.3, lower BR than F-16A with just 9L’s and no IRCCM or HMD.
I vote we remove the Mig-21 BISON and replace it with a Saudi Tornado F3 at 12.0 instead
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13.0 is too high for it, but it should go to 12.7 without a doubt.
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Yes, why not remove the least functional British premium aircraft and put another Tornado.
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Of course you compare it to the worst F16, it has nothing to do and no one doubts that you can be 1 in an uptier in a video game where generally 6-8 people do absolutely NOTHING.
It’s still a mig21
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M2K C-S4 as well.
Both jets works as counterpart of each other.
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Kfir C.2 has the max speed over 2300++ Km/h while the F-5T only around 1700++ Km/h. Kfir can chase the mig-21 while F-5T cannot chase at all. So it is normal KFir has a bit higher BR.
If you follow the real F-5T, it should bring 2 aim9m plus 2 derby with elbit radar. I don’t mind to bump this F-5T to 12.7 with the real spec.
That F-5 would be 13.0
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The F5t starts at 1450km/h and the
Bison at 1350km/h you can catch up with it.
It has a worse kit than the MiG-29G, missing out on both the R-27E and 2 R-73 pylons.
The FM is also significantly worse.
Also, you should never have a problem flaring R-73’s in the F-5, that thing has the heat signature of a butterfly.
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F-5s are trash and easy to defeat or just simply ignore I kill tons of F-5C and that Thailand one with Mirages all F-5s can do is shoot players with its very user friendly guns that are lacking in braincells that try to fight it in a rolling scissors or just decided to fly under 900kmh for some reason… If you dont do those things it can only chase you not ever attack you and even a trash A-5 actually will outrun any F-5 on the deck…