Hi Gaijin,
My F-5T is constantly against Mig-21 Bison. F-5T only equipped with 2 python 3 NON-IRCCM while Mig-21 can have 4 R-73 IRCCM and/or r-27T/R with HMD and a lot of flare as well. These Mig-21 load out is comparable with German Mig-29G with BR 13.0.
It should be BR 13.0 as well.
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According to your theory,
F-5T 11.7 when.
These F-5T load out is comparable with Israel Kfir C.2 with BR 11.7
:/
MiG-21 Bison is a strong plane, but maybe not in Mirage 2000CS-5 (12.7BR) level thanks to the MiG-21 Fuselage and scare amount of CM.
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I agree. Just give me a few more weeks so I can finish the GB tree.
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What are you talking about, the Bison is currently perpetually at 13.0, it is a mig 21 that starts at 1350km/h and at the second turn you are at 300km/h.
It has good IR missiles and good countermeasures, end of story.
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Yes, it’s crazy how low BR Gaijin gave this thing. It also has PD radar +TWS and get’s downtiers all the time, was facing this thing on 90% of my matches with Mig-23ML that has just 2 R-24R’s with terrible SRC radar and RWR that doesn’t even ping from his missiles, I standed no chance against this thing. It even intercepted my radar missiles with R-73 and HMD, literally near impossible to beat this thing.
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This is straight up bullshit, this is the snail’s mouse wheel. You will see a lot of bison but when you play it I guarantee you that 11.7 is not the norm.
Moreover, the 12.3 support does not exist and 12.7 now without the IRIAF makes you go up to 13 perpetually.
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OP is conplaining about MiG-21 Bison while flying F-5T
and pointing weaponry as the only reason to need to be 13.0
Ignoring flight performance difference between MiG-29G and MiG-21 Bison.
So, I did a direct comparison between Kfir C.2 and F-5T with their weaponry only.
If OP claims that MiG-21 Bison need to be 13.0 thanks to R-73
Then F-5T also should be 11.7 with the same dumb theory.
As long as non-ARH versions of Mirage 2000’s are on 12.3~12.7 (DR-1/CS-4 on 12.3 and D-RMV/CS-5 on 12.7)
Sending MiG-21 Bison into 13.0 which is the same level as Su-27 or F-15A is nothing but a bullshit diabolical take.
MiG-21 Bison can’t carry 6x R-27ER.
Well, I admit that MiG-21 Bison in its current position is a bit too strong.
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Why would I lie lol? Almost every single match on Mig-23ML was against near full team of Mig-21Bisons and Persian F-14’s and Mirage F-1’s. All these are premium/event vehicles that were spammed ever since the sales. And ever since 14.0 was added, all 13.0’s get sucked into that and those below 13.0 get’s sucked into 11.7-12.7 premium matchmaker, it’s not a rocket science to figure this out.
EDIT: And even recently I was stock grinding 13.0 Su-27 and only faced Mig-21Bisons like 10%-20% of my matches at max. Why would you deny something that is so obvious.
This you say is because of the game’s own unhealthy system. You arrive at a BR and you see a plane dominate. You use it and it never makes those downgrades.
This thing can dominate even on full uptiers, there’s no reason why it’s still 12.3, lower BR than F-16A with just 9L’s and no IRCCM or HMD.
I vote we remove the Mig-21 BISON and replace it with a Saudi Tornado F3 at 12.0 instead
13.0 is too high for it, but it should go to 12.7 without a doubt.
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Yes, why not remove the least functional British premium aircraft and put another Tornado.
Of course you compare it to the worst F16, it has nothing to do and no one doubts that you can be 1 in an uptier in a video game where generally 6-8 people do absolutely NOTHING.
It’s still a mig21
M2K C-S4 as well.
Both jets works as counterpart of each other.
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Kfir C.2 has the max speed over 2300++ Km/h while the F-5T only around 1700++ Km/h. Kfir can chase the mig-21 while F-5T cannot chase at all. So it is normal KFir has a bit higher BR.
If you follow the real F-5T, it should bring 2 aim9m plus 2 derby with elbit radar. I don’t mind to bump this F-5T to 12.7 with the real spec.
That F-5 would be 13.0
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The F5t starts at 1450km/h and the
Bison at 1350km/h you can catch up with it.
It has a worse kit than the MiG-29G, missing out on both the R-27E and 2 R-73 pylons.
The FM is also significantly worse.
Also, you should never have a problem flaring R-73’s in the F-5, that thing has the heat signature of a butterfly.
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F-5s are trash and easy to defeat or just simply ignore I kill tons of F-5C and that Thailand one with Mirages all F-5s can do is shoot players with its very user friendly guns that are lacking in braincells that try to fight it in a rolling scissors or just decided to fly under 900kmh for some reason… If you dont do those things it can only chase you not ever attack you and even a trash A-5 actually will outrun any F-5 on the deck…