I said overrated, not over tiered. F-16A is fine at 12.3. What I mean that it’s a situational jet, 9L’s are near useless for any aware targets sine they lack IRCCM which is common in this BR range and flight performance only really shines on dogfights which rarely happens.
This, yes! It needs to be 12.7. It’s not good for 13.0 but too good for 12.3.
Did I say that you said those thing or are you schizoing and trying to win an unwinable fight ?
R-73’s are way more harder to flare than 9L’s, at close range you need to pre flare and it pulls wayyy more G’s and AOA than 9L or 9M’s. Below 1km it’s unflarable, at close side aspect it’s also unflarable. 9L’s are only unflarable at close rear aspect when afterburning and doesn’t pull nowhere near as much.
So you just gonna ignore that the thing still a Mig21 on 12.3 ?
This part is right, can’t convince one who doesn’t want to be convinced. So, I won’t be.
EDIT:
And AV-8B Plus is still a harrier at 13.0, by your logic it could be 12.3-12.7 and it would be fine since it’s just an harrier.
Yeah cause you cherry picking the worst part possible and hope people will agree with your piss poor point ? Still ignoring that it is still a Mig21 at 12.3. And with your piss poor logic then F4 can be considered a lower br if not as good as the F16. Still gonna ignore what holding the Bison back as a 12.3 jet and just focus on the R-73 because your skill issue not allowing you to pre flare the thing ? Yeah no shiet sherlock. Also saying that F16 are overrated making any point you trying to make further pretty much hold no value. I can’t believe someone would say such horrible statement and act like he right
Don’t play with words.
So,
This is in a logically deducible area.
Man, are you here to piss everyone off?
I think you are the one who is insecure here and can’t remember what you even talked about.
Strange, I think this reply which I saw was way shorter than this.
I told you before on this topic
MiG-21 bison will need R-27ER/ET for being sidegrade of MiG-29
Every soviet jet in 12.7BR is accessible to R-27ER/ET.
Bison don’t.
It would be easy to convince people if you actually had convincing arguments.
Because saying this about the F-16A seems like more of a player issue than a F-16 issue.
I have played the F-16A, Mirage 2000C-S5 and MiG-21 Bison at 12.3 and if I had to pick what to play the Bison would always be third place.
Hell even if you change the S5 for the S4 (seeing as the S5 is now 12.7), the Bison would still be third place for me.
Congrats, you totally missed the entire point of the post.
Is this your first time using the internet?
So you just proved to us that your argument doesn’t have any value and doesn’t prove anything beside it match your personal confirmation bias then ? Lmao , xd even
BRUH
mig 21 bison, with the mig21 bis model with radar and HMD 39 is very op according to you, they would need to go up to 12.7 or 13.
But a plane with an FM comparable to the 14.0 plane in the 12.3 is easily acceptable.
I already saw the joke ready (edit ; I’m referring to the post and not the player)
with 4x aim 120 and 2x aim9m…
you are a pit of contradictions zzz
Hmmm… almost like at top tier dogfights hardly ever happens to actually use that flight model…
What was the joke? Pasting a laughing cat meme doesn’t make you funi
EDIT: Ariete has amazing flight model, let’s make it 13.0, AV-8B+ has terrible flight model and is subsonic, so 12.3 it is. That’s your logic, if you can call it that.
Here he comes again with completely absurd comparisons, without any equivalences.
In the 12.3, yes, they happen, but the Fm is not just for dogfighting, notching with an f16 is infinitely easier than with a mig 21, Fm is not just about your performance in a dogfight, it is about all the plane’s flight characteristics, be it evasive maneuvering, energy conservation, among others, the fm of the f16 helps it from combat with missiles to dogfighting.
In terms of flight performance, the F16 is only below the Rafale and the EF.
I already said, my statistics reflect my personal performance, not the overall performance of an airplane.
and you must have some fetish with my profile hahahaha
Do not post stats of users in order to make fun of them, etc
How’s calling one’s bs is making fun of them? I didn’t make “fun” of him on my first post, simply stated a fact that people lie and his stats does not back up his claims, why did it got hidden?