luque13
November 4, 2025, 9:45pm
3520
It’s also going to pull harder which matters as much as being fast does in BVR. Su-30SM does work in BVR and it’s FM is no better than the F-15C.
Radar and missiles is what wins games, give the Rafale the PD from the Mirage 2000 and it wouldn’t be anywhere near as dominant
ron_23
November 4, 2025, 9:46pm
3521
the Su-30 also has to have 2 times the missiles to compensate for the FM
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ron_23
November 4, 2025, 9:47pm
3522
the Mirage radar has more range than the rafale one ingame
luque13
November 4, 2025, 9:47pm
3523
And Aim120Cs are better in BVR so it kind of evens it up a little…Su-30 will still be strong.
_Renzo
November 4, 2025, 9:48pm
3524
I doubt it. AESA or mechanical, the Rafale can still do the tried and trusted “HMD lock and MICA be upon you” to just absolutely dominate the close range fights.
luque13
November 4, 2025, 9:48pm
3525
Slower scan pattern though and prone to notching.
ron_23
November 4, 2025, 9:49pm
3526
luque13:
prone to notching
not anymore than the rafale radar
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luque13
November 4, 2025, 9:50pm
3527
yes but it takes longer as they fight with the Radar this is the Typhoon experience begging the Radar to lock something. That time and not be able to cycle targets so quickly would reduce the Rafale ability to fire off 6 MICAS sit in the notch and just win.
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_Renzo
November 4, 2025, 9:50pm
3528
Yeah. I could be wrong but I don’t think AESA radars are any more resistant to notching in WT than mechanical radars.
mmeehh id say missiles mean less than a good airframe
luque13
November 4, 2025, 9:51pm
3530
It refreshes faster so it sees you as soon as you leave the notch.
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ron_23
November 4, 2025, 9:51pm
3531
they arent ESA radars are just modeled as fast scanning mechanical radars
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ron_23
November 4, 2025, 9:51pm
3532
so it isnt more resistant to notching
luque13
November 4, 2025, 9:52pm
3533
Not technically but also yes. As if it looses you for a second it then reacquires you.
_Renzo
November 4, 2025, 9:52pm
3534
I hope they at least give the F-15C GE radar the good NCTR that all the other esa radars have.
The 9 threat type NCTR is just so depressing and useless, especially when your plane is only good at BVR.
ron_23
November 4, 2025, 9:53pm
3535
get ready for the 3 type NCTR the Mig-29SMT has
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At least the radar angles on the SMT are good so you can do some really funny things with it.
Thats also like the only positive the SMT has. Man i wish they would fix the 29 airframe and give us a 29M 9.15 or one of the other 29M/35s already.
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ron_23
November 4, 2025, 9:57pm
3537
i know i am a master of that art in simulator
_Renzo
November 4, 2025, 9:57pm
3538
That is diabolical, is it also only when you hard lock and not available in TWS?