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He’s discussing dev server, which Kh-38MT wobbles where IOG keeps it relatively stable.
Spike IR and Mav 65G are entirely spooked now whereas on.
And NO AGMs on live server are currently affected with AGM-65G tested on live server as that’s what I personally have available.
I get you’re upset that I’m biased against Russia, and you don’t like my bias in favor of NATO, but there’s no reason to make things personal.
well you are literally seeing a video from the devserver proving that the AGM-65D its affected by LDIRCM everybody here saw it you are literally the only one saying otherwise without proving it in every discord server related to war thunder talking about the devserver is literally talking about this but just 2 guys are saying otherwise. clearly you two guys are really biased.
Because my own testing says other wise. In that video he volley fires them from above where there is to my knowledge no emitter, in my own testing fired from below where there is an emitter one per pass the 65D continued to connect and not show any signs of being affected unlike spikes or 65G.
you are literally contradicting yourself here saying “in that video he volley fires them from above where is to my aknowledge no emitter” if it werent an emitter right there it should connect even from above but you are literally seeing in the video that even from above its getting affected the AGM-65D i really cant understand what you are arguing about? the AGM-65G uses the same seeker as the D variant it just change the warhead this is another inconsistency in your narrative. come on dont waste any more words and give us evidence of what you are saying its literally happening show us pls coz we are all interested to see.
Helicopters have not been OP in over half a decade, this is also not a change to helicopters.
This change is correcting the seekers of IR AGMs, which makes the IR AGMs less OP.
But you’d rather keep your Kh-38MT staying OP…
SLAMRAAM, Spyder, FlaRakRad, ITO-90M, etc all deal with helicopters the same as Pantsir. Nice job implying NATO is Russia…
@Cpt_Naoshi_Kanno
CAS isn’t being buffed, helicopters are not changing at all.
IR AGMs as a whole are being corrected to no longer be immune to IRCM.
Nope, I’m saying that 7.7 doesn’t even cut it. It should be more like 9.0; naval suffers from severe over-compression to a ridiculously broken degree. The tech tree ceiling s/b 9.7 and Gneisenau, Iowa, and Yamato s/b near the top of that. Unless you enjoy fighting a Kronshtadt with an Omaha class cruiser.
Yes, ARHs were locking onto helicopters in our testing, though we did only test against Ka-52 one time with that.
Ground radars are also stronger than air radars in this role which I sadly can’t test at this time.
My priority was pushing GE into AH-60 for Israel to get the tests with SPIKEs rather than pushing GE into a SPAA platform for testing.
Hmmm… I will still maintain reservations with regard to ARH SAM vs Helis for the time being then, given that if they actually modeled Rotor blades having a PD signature like they should, it would be in the patch notes.
I am also interested in whether or not the new Gen 5 IR SAMs (IRIS-T and Aim-9X) do anything vs DIRCM equipped helis.
yea literally the best counter for all the most advanced SAMs in the world in game are just helis with and incredible strong DIRCM and LDIRCM. well it seems that all of us next update and 8v8 SQB season should be flying MI-28NMs to shxt on the face of these new SAMs. Spawn 3 MI-28NM and 1 Z-10ME and the match its done in just minutes.
If I am reading the gamefiles right, the L370-5L has full 360° coverage azimuth and ±75° in elevation, so it has a pretty small blindspot. Do you have any video of the AGM-65D ignoring it? There should be no exception for it as far as I can see.
LDIRCM only, which is only on 2 helicopters. But it’s a start. At this moment it doens’t necessarily help combatting the problem with IR AGMs at all though, they will still be strong against ground vehicles, which is the entire problem. For the anti heli role, they were okay, with Kh-38MT being most effective (but no non-Russian helicopter has LDIRCM). It also makes the new IIR SAMs less (to in-)effective in particular against these 2 helicopters, not sure how that is for balance.
But yeah. Helis are basically dead for us. What we need is MMW LOAL Brimstones for the Tornado and Typhoon .Those should counter these new SAMs just fine :P