We just wanted to note that the planned changes are only for Bluewater Fleet. At the time being, please focus feedback on this matter as we are not currently planning changes for costal at this time and wish to collect feedback spesifically on the Bluewater changes.
Please be sure to let us know your costal feedback in the normal BR update topics.
Gneisenau is still 7.7 on the dev server, right? So, you’re suggesting Scharnhorst should be same BR as Gneisenau, even though Scharnhorst will have smaller main guns?
Since I’m not supposed to post BR change feedback for coastal boats in this thread, I’ll hold off on that until the next regular BR changes thread.
Mode: Naval Arcade & Realistic Battles
Ship: USS Aylwin
Change: Keep it 4.0 (3.7 → 4.0)
Reasoning: With other destroyers in its BR range being moved up, there’s no reason for Aylwin to be lowered as well. She has extremely strong firepower for her battle rating. If placed at 3.7, she would easily eat coastal vessels like snacks.
Scharnhorst will have 3 more guns, which compensates, Scharnhorst also has a faster reload of 17 seconds to Gneisenau’s I think 22. Scharnhorst will have more accurate guns, Scharnhorst can also play around her guns by closing distance, which is made easier as she is one of the fastest high tier ships, and is designed to be a brawler, the closer she gets the better her armour to a point. If its an issue that they are the same BR Gneisenau could always go up… Her armour would potentially be stronger than Bismarcks.
Even if those factors did not exist, sometimes ships have to be bad so every other ship can be good. How is a Bretagne, Kongo, Kirishima, Strasbourg going to deal with a team of Scharnhorsts.
As I said, better to start her there and move her down, than to move her up which we’ve been waiting for for 3 years.
More chances to hit a target means more chances to detonate ammo or disable modules. Gneisenau wont suffer from the reduction in number of shells with her faster rate of fire like other ships. But outside of a few examples at the ranges we play at the 11s on Scharnhorst are enough to penetrate turret faces and penetrate barbette armour.
Now BRs for Battleshipa are being decompressed. Can HMS Rodney recieve her historical 30second reload rate. Put her at 8.0 if you think thats necessary.
I don’t really think those already-in-game vessels except Amagi and Mutsu should be uptiered to face the Soyuz and Yamato. Take Hood as example, her main caliber cannot pen Yamato’s belt armor in any regular combat distances, which will totally ruin the game experience.
How often do full uptiers happen in naval? (I play Ground RB far more than naval, and full uptiers seem to happen at least every other game in GRB.) I can’t see the Scharnhorst doing well against the likes of the Iowa, Yamato, or that completely fabricated Russian beast. The Scharnhorst isn’t as tanky as it once was, but I’ve admittedly gotten to the Scharnhorst game much later than many people.
My feedback for russia changes
Not sure about arkhangelsk but dont have strong opinion
Kronshtadt→ 7.7 one of the strongest 7.0s currently barely touched by ballistics nerf shouldnt be lower than other current 7.0s
rest seems fine for me
My feedback for germany changes
Scharnhorst → 7.7 same reason as Kronshtadt
Admiral Hipper and Prinz Eugen to 6.0 shouldnt be same br as Nurnberg and Karlsruhe and Spee went up so its obvious change to decompress german CLs too.
Rest of germany changes look fine
I think it would make sense to unfolder the HMS Armada and HMAS Tobruk. with the HMAS Tobruk being moved to the center line and being place before the HMS Diana / Daring Folder. While the HMS Armada stayed on the left line.
I am saying this as the Tobruk plays more like the Diana / Daring, while the Armada stays on the left line as it is more familiar to the vehicles before it.