Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

DIRCM on Z-10ME and AH-64E, both very modern and made well into IIR seeker time. Unless they use the stronger lasers your talking about

damn, it’s almost like an ir countermeasure is gonna counter ir
also, Ka-50 DIRCM when gaijoobles?

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Urgh, I mixed up two types of counter meassures: IRCM and DIRCM.
IRCM is ineffective against modern IIR.
DIRCM is also effective against IIR, but the used laser has to be tuned for the wavelength of the seeker of the approaching missile. So if the frequencies do not match or the laser isn’t exactly pointed at the missiles seeker it’s ineffecive again.

I got it from my own testing of everything but pars (Dont know a pars haver thats online). AGM-65D was not affected by MI-28NMs DIRCM, As I said KH-38MTs seeker was but in multiple instances of testing against Ka-52 its seeker while being affected still managed to connect with the Kamov likely because of the IOG.

the thing is not about the helis just getting this the thing is that its really agressive and invulnerable IR munitions cant do damage to the helis its literally perfect it doesnt fail its effectiveness does not get affected depending on the range that the munition gets launched and it doesnt get affected by the speed of the munition that its going towards the heli i dont want to go into some political stuff because its not the place and all here knows this but russia literally lost 64 KA-52s with (DIRCM) and a lot of them were KA-52M with (LDIRCM) in simple terms this means that the jamming systems are not perfect and they are vulnerable at some point thats what i want to point it out this same thing should be reflected in game because its a matter of balance man.

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I think it’s time that gaijin implements the doppler return of the rotating helicopter rotor to let ARH missiles effecively lock onto hovering helicopters. Not even notching would save them in this case so they would have to use ground cover and multipathing. The NASAMS would then have a speciality as a SPAA with its ARH missiles.

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yes completly agree with this its just incredible nasty how helicopters are literally invunerable against fox-3 attacks when they shouldn´t.

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IDK whats going on in that video but considering the L370-5L emitter is on the belly of the MI-28NM and when a AGM-65D was fired from on level or below it still connected in my testing im going to say your man above has something else going on.

how the hell you dont know whats going on in the video? you are literally seeing that the AGM-65D its getting affected by LDIRCM in the MI-28NM mate its the devserver man not live server. first of all are you aware that the MI-28NM its getting “LDIRCM” thing that its not the same as “DIRCM”?

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If you want you can ask the guy who launched them at me @AlvisWisla.

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In this case would’t he agree with you that AGM-65D would be affected since that would be better for russia if he was biased towards russia like you claim.

@x-GeeNo_MS-x
He’s discussing dev server, which Kh-38MT wobbles where IOG keeps it relatively stable.
Spike IR and Mav 65G are entirely spooked now whereas on.

And NO AGMs on live server are currently affected with AGM-65G tested on live server as that’s what I personally have available.

I get you’re upset that I’m biased against Russia, and you don’t like my bias in favor of NATO, but there’s no reason to make things personal.

well you are literally seeing a video from the devserver proving that the AGM-65D its affected by LDIRCM everybody here saw it you are literally the only one saying otherwise without proving it in every discord server related to war thunder talking about the devserver is literally talking about this but just 2 guys are saying otherwise. clearly you two guys are really biased.

Because my own testing says other wise. In that video he volley fires them from above where there is to my knowledge no emitter, in my own testing fired from below where there is an emitter one per pass the 65D continued to connect and not show any signs of being affected unlike spikes or 65G.

you are literally contradicting yourself here saying “in that video he volley fires them from above where is to my aknowledge no emitter” if it werent an emitter right there it should connect even from above but you are literally seeing in the video that even from above its getting affected the AGM-65D i really cant understand what you are arguing about? the AGM-65G uses the same seeker as the D variant it just change the warhead this is another inconsistency in your narrative. come on dont waste any more words and give us evidence of what you are saying its literally happening show us pls coz we are all interested to see.

I hope it includes a major decompression of naval