Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

When this update will come alive, tomorrow , after tomorrow.?

updates are inanimate objects that cant be alive, itll most likely come out tomorrow

That nations other than the US and USSR remain playable at top tier.

If new aircraft continue to be added for them that continue to push their performance up, then other nations should also get new aircraft that do the same.

If the requirement for the Typhoon to be added is something that can reliably fight it in both WVR and BVR then we are going to be waiting a long time. Both the Rafale and Typhoon can match the F-15C/E in BVR just about and beat it in WVR.

So this expectation that US and USSR must always be top dog is what im challenging

2 Likes

could make the EAP a Dreams come true plane with a Single ADEN

Ehh I would argue on this bit here. “gaps” is subjective in terms of IRL capacity vs contemporaries in choices.

EG we got given planes without amraam only to have them upgraded with amraam later using “proxy weapons” as placeholders, 100% fine, but the reality is that this could have been an option for the UK at least in some situational choices. So instead of getting a foreign plane, the UK could have gotten a domestic 1 with placeholder weapons until the AMRAAM option was ready.

Key example plane would be Hawk 200, I doubt anyone would have been upset getting that instead of the Gripen (or alongside it I guess?) using only skyflash until the AMRAAM update. Sure, on paper its a worse plane due to lack of mach capacity, I doubt people would have been too fussed because they would be getting an obvious UK choice. Or do that with the Sea Harrier using temp skyflash and replaced with AMRAAM later (as iirc happened to the UK Gripens, they got skyflash, and replaced with R-Darter later on?)

While the “gap” would exist ofc, at least there would have been fillers which obviously are designed to fill the fox 3 role. (not touching Tejas ofc)

Rafale + Typhoon would give (at least) 4 Nations aircraft that can compete with each other

add a Gripen E and you get another one

sure USSR and USA may be not so dominating for a few majors but no single nation will be OP

mockup skyflashes…

Yeah, exactly and even then, F-15Cs and Es could easily get a few minor buffs to keep them comfortably in the fight.

Considering the “limited” number of top tier aircraft available for some nations, I think its better for those with loads to be catching up rather than it being the ones with a few

yes, that was literally the ONLY pitful for it. But considering we have things like Mig-29s with R-27ER that never carried them and Yak-141s with IRST that never had them and heck, even the entirely fake F-16AJ, giving the EAP some Skyflash DFs is not exactly the most game breaking thing they could have done

Tomorrow Update yee?

Who knows?

Actually not a bad machine if we look at it now. I thought its the Z-19E going on sale again.

Edit: hold up

23mm slams when u can aim it lol

Guys, I appreciate the EAP may be an aircraft some of you have a personal interest in, but it’s now becoming a huge disruption in these RR topics.

The aircraft was a technology demonstrator. Nothing more. As we have already said, it’s not something suitable for the game (unless you want to ram someone with an unarmed, RWR less, countermeasurer-less aircraft).

It’s time to please move on from the aircraft.

It was a fun meme at first, but sadly some are taking it too far.

20 Likes

It hits somewhat decent honestly, but its probably the hardest gun to aim in this BR, excluding aden/defas that are placed in rediculous positions.

sounds like a you-issue

The A-5C can get crosshair on foes pretty easy but you cant say that for the J-7D. Id much prefer J-7E with that ludicrous crosshair management and a hard hitting 30mm.

so what?

5 Likes

The 23-2 is probably the worst cannon at this BR, but a handful of soviet aircrafts has to cope with it as well.