Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Then ICE can stay at 13.3 then

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Considering 99% of the complaining is for them to STOP adding subtrees to britain and Germany wants

  • Turkey
  • Denmark
  • Argentina
  • Poland
  • Czechslovakia
  • Canada
  • Spain

and probably quite a few im forgetting. Your arguments kinda falls on its head

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what is that? F-18 with delta wings?

who called me?

object 122TM too, and not only China TT, but I can’t remember.

huh?

I cant remember the name but it was a BAE Prototype intended to replace the Jaguar

Edit found it BAE P110

I am not even trying to argument with you here. I am just politely asking you that if you cry here, at least keep Germany “mainz” out of it since you are yourself 1 nation main, so it’s kinda pathetic to cry about a toy you want by using some imaginary “german mains” as crutch to get what you want. Now shush.

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Argentina’s FMA SAIA 90; ditched due to financial problems since late 1980s to present. But yeah, it did planned to use F404 as powerplant

No, its the BAE P110

Tea is the best

Just wait for the first protuction series jets. Soon it will be time.

Eurofighter supposedly eats F-15E for breakfast in BFM.

Eurofighters beats most things in WVR combat, even the F-22.

Typhoon vs F-15E is just Tornado F3 vs F-16C in reverse, though far smaller gap.

I could see some buffs coming for the F-15s like BOL, to help, but they’ll just have to find a way to use their BVR strength instead of relying on WVR.

Not a lot else left to be added for quite a few nations, so its either mass C&P of F-18s or nothing at all and personally, whilst I wont mind an F-18C, ending another year with a C&P aircraft would be kinda boring.

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It will be here in good time.
Patience is a virtue isn’t it?

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Only if there isnt a year long gap like there was last year.

So long as we get some decent aircraft in a decent state in the meantime, it would be fine-ish. Though only if other nations also dont get new top tier aircraft and the top tier remains status quo. SAAF Gripen C is already starting to get be outclassed by the F-15C let alone the upcoming F-15E.

But things like the state of the GR4 leave… concerns… regarding that happening. It went from being one of the strongest pure CAS aircraft to one of the weakest instantly.

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I don’t quite get your angle.
War Thunder attempts realism though some countries did not have quite the funsing for military aviation as others.
Therefore some countries such as Germany and Britain for example do have gaps in some places.

How is Gripen lacking compared to F-15 disregarding the lower missile count?
How could one expect to always be equal when that is impossible?

If two pilots from the same air force who each are as skilled as the other, without one having a bad day of course, using the same type modified to the same degree with the same amount of fuel and weaponry starting BFM at equal altitude with other aspects being equal as well have it out “fair and square”.

What precisely is your expectation here?

nop, SAIA 90 concept was only a proposal from Dornier to FMA, based on the TKF 90 development.

During those years, Dornier and FMA were working together on the Pampa. SAIA 90/TKF 90 never took off, as Dornier eventually abandoned the project due to a lack of funding.