Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

With the update, should we expect any improvement(s) for the US ground tech tree?

Currently in the state that the US is in, everything beyond 10.3 (maybe 10.7) seems to be a joke still, even with the M1a2 SEP V2, there’s truly no benefit to even research said V2 with the forced TUSK package, like…none, unless you’re coping to just have a 3rd tank with M829a2. The SPAA US has currently is hot-dog water, and I understand that the US has no other SPAA (because in reality, the US should, and would have air superiority and control rendering the use of SPAA moot.) However, none of this currently helps the US Ground tree at all. (Not counting CAS or jets controlling the air space.)

I would love to see the US Ground forces get shown love, and fixing the Abrams to be more “combatable” than where it is now. unpopular opinion: I would love to see the Click-Bait be moved down to 10.7/11.0 and being fine with the fact that it would get a weaker APFSDS.

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Real life issue in fact. Historically accurate suffering you could say

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Or in the future it might sub tree for iberian (Portugal & Spain) tech tree instead germany someday ?

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@Smin1080p_WT sorry for the ping but I just realised today the reload on the Rooikat Mk1D is the same as the 105s on most MBTs yet it does far less damage per shot and rarely one shots, are there any chances that might change?

With there recent subtree/nation drive I doubt there will be a new nation.

Eh maybe there is still a chance for the SEPv3 to appear in the december update.

Although seeing how little top tier ground content was added last year, I don’t have high hopes.

The zoom changes from 6-12x from 3-18x for both US and UK adats are really nice. Huge quality of life imo.

Also while it’s not really a buff, but that new .50 cal that the US adats got is really funny.

Polish aircraft and ground should be standalone tech tree only ? 🤔

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Just because they are not a sub doesn’t mean they will be a independent tree, for now at least they will go wherever the origins of the tech was.

I.e German Leo = Germany, Firefly = Britain ect

I do remember, but I also remember they scrapped the SG Leopard they were about to give China for the update. So the best thing we can do is to stay persistent so Gaijin don’t think they can wait it out and actually feel some pressure to rethink this.

In this case it’s a Hawk 53, armed with a belly mounted 30mm cannon as well as 4 wing hardpoints for unguided bombs or rockets. Of course any Hawk 100/200 variant would be way too much as a replacement for R2Y2.

They should be the lead nation for Warsaw Pact techtree and you cant convince me otherwise

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Maybe it comes as the leopard 2 evolution (or revolution dont know which the sg is based on) for germany
or for japan (but then the sg and not the evolution/revolution)

New tank for Germany
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The Leopard 2 Revolution would be a bit more advanced than a 2SG from my understanding, since it has a remote weapons station and automatic smoke launchers Singapore didn’t adopt. Ideally this would be added as separate model for Germany regardless.

For the Leopard 2SG itself I’d hope for one of three options

  • ASEAN subtree for Japan
  • Singapore subtree for Israel
  • Independent ASEAN Tech Tree
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What do you mean? You think most Warsaw pact nations should be packed into a single tree? Or am I mistaken.

I might hope after updated dev server gajin implemented Litening III targeting pod from Tornado GR.4 instead LANTIRN AN/AAQ-14 and Litening II for 2 fighter aircraft

  • JAS39 Gripen C (HuAF, SAAF & SWE)
  • F-15I Ra’am (IAF & IDF)

litening III us nice for the tornado but is still probably gonna be worse for CAS then the F15E due to the best FnF weapons being 4 PGM 500s which would also take all of your capacity

I think they should introduce some ex warsaw pact countries in a single techtree yes. Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, maybe Ukraine… there are many options to make the techtree interesting.

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Yea though the subtree system must be reworked for this nation.

Maybe have a faction name then the country tabs leading into smaller Air, ground and Naval ect.

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I’d just put these nations together and place vehicles based on progression and capabilities without focusing on nation-specific research lines.

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Should just be Poland and maybe Czechoslovakia, anyone else should go to other trees.