Depends on Gaijin.
When EFT arrives Sweden will loose its CAS advantage against Germany and their top helicopter is already worse then German one.
If Gaijin also adds multiple Leo2 models that has add-on armor then Germany will most likely become stronger than Sweden in the future.
Danish Leo2A7V will keep Sweden in meta but they will certainly not gonna best in the future, most likely will be 2nd or 3rd.
Again with this? Its very unlikely sweden will get sbother mbt outside of gaijin somehow power creeping the 2a7 as per gaijins current planes for DK and NOR, they are exclusively premium/event. The idea of a danish 2a7 at this point is pure cope. If gaijins opinion on the natter changes then maybe it should be worthy of speaking about.
Additionally sweden does not have better helicopters, that is the most idiotic take ive seen which tells you you fall under one of two categories of you didn’t bother looking at their tree outside and just scream bias.
Dont waste your time Panther, Thodin is basically impossible to talk to since the only thing he does is pure cope about anything german whereas there are a plethora of other very well versed and competent german players here to discuss with.
Germans : “We just want to be treated equally to Sweden and have equally MBT and planes.”
Gaijin: “Here. Just ONE nerfed MBT and a brick with AMRAAMs. Take it or leave it”
Comunity: “NOOO. Germany OP. They should stay at Leopard 2A4 and F-4F Early!!!”
Sweden didn’t dethrone anyone. Are you just conveniently going to forget that the Strv 122s have been in game for a year before the BVM was added? And that they have been by far the best in terms of MBTs for the last 4 years straight?
Get that boohoo poor swedes out of here.
Wasn’t the 2A6 better at one point because Sweden was stuck with DM33(?) for the longest time?
Yeah yeah before 2A6 while Russia have T-72B3
did that op Strv122 stop Russia stomp? as i remember answers is no and when the BVM first introduced did two op Strv 122 stop the Russia stomps? as i remember the answer still no
Sure it among best ground line up but it didn’t stop Russian dominate
It depends if you value the better armor or extra pen more, which honestly can go both ways.
However when Germany got the 2A6 Sweden got their second Strv 122, so they remained the best top tier ground lineup at that time.
not to mention how sweden then got the 2a6 with finland while germany was stuck at their 2a6 still
Gaijin made up for that with the PSO right? Right?!
/s
Worthless additional when it can equip with additional frontal armor but gaijin just give useless dozer blade instead and don’t even make it as modifications
It basically heavier 2A5 that offer little protection
Seeing as the Swedish winrates were still quite a bit higher than any other nation besides Russia and Italy (of all nations), to an extend yes.
I get it. You like your crutch Strv 122s and like to pretend that they were all fina and balanced.
Compare to Russia
Yes it more balance than Russia
at least their line up not canc*rous compare to Russia
It wasn’t lol, but I won’t derail further so I’ll let you cope however way you want if it makes you feel better.
I wonder if gaijin will eventually add the front hull armor of god forbid they make it a new vehicle to research.
Then what is it ?
Russia are fair and balanced while Sweden are not? or something?
I never denied strv 122 are one of the best tanks but their line up are just with best tanks with no support (well at least before Gripen which is fine CAS)
I remembered that one of the mod said PSO hull are base on 2A6 EX which mean it should be stronger than 2A5 now where is my 2A6 ex hull?
and they can remove stupid dozer blade to put additional frontal armor too gaijin just being ahole to not give them but no problem with Sweden got frontal armor heh
Nah sweden was pretty strong on release, gaijin balanced their armor with them only having dm33 and being 18k sl to repair per vehicle. (Strv 101 being 33k sl, back in my day lol) the problem was how poorly gaijin handled adding finland additionally to the rate at which they add german top tier ground which isnt gimped. My opinion is the 2a6 shouldve been added only after germany had a few other main meta leopards and rather the leopards shouldve been patria models since finland lacks any character whatsoever. No nation should have their best vehicle basically used like the 2a6 was imo. Now maybe if germany had both the 2a6EX and the 2a7v i wouldnt mind finland getting their leopards but i dont work at gaijin so i dint have a say lol.
Gone, sent to the GE for warthunder realm, never to be seen again.
Tbf, 122s on release were so much weaker compared to how they are now. Back in the day their upper plate couldn’t ricochet APFSDS, their mantlets were even weaker, and their gear ratios were incorrect (but this was true for all Leopard 2s).
“Modern” 122s in terms of WT history, are actual monsters compared to how 122A & B were at release.