10 tanks vs 40 tanks but also 40 planes vs 10 planes)
15 (M1A1SA and later) Abrams models to 3 T-80U, 10 T-72B3, and 2 T-90A would be fun lol
Nah dude, I have both the F-16C and the Su-27 and I gotta say I enjoy the flanker much MUCH more.
Both are still fun, but the consistency of the R-27 is amazing.
R-73s are also just hilarious missiles
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Read what in the thread?
If the missile is used within 10-12KM it’s not an issue. That’s within range of majority SPAA currently ingame. The missiles aren’t overpowered because of speed advantage over other laser guided munitions at the BR range. They’re overpowered because they can fire outside twice the range of all SPAA ingame, even the Pantsir can’t hit the plane for a good 4KM.
Su-27 is the best missile bus in the game, but at soon as you start having to dogfight, the R-73s can do a lot, but can only do so much against F-16Cs and Gripens, especially after the performance buff to the F-16C.
F-16C is also much much better at ground-pounding than the Su-27, but I think you aren’t taking that into account, so fair enough.
2.35.0.49 spoiler
- Su-25SM3: RWR: L-150 → L-150-16M
- New RWR: L-150-16M
- L-150 but it can also detect:
- Bands K & L
- AN/APG-78 (AH-64D, AH-64D [JPN], Apache A.H. Mk. 1, Saraph)
- N025 (Mi-28NM)
- RN01 Arbalet-52 (Ka-52)
- RN01-II
- 1L32-1 (9P157-2)
- 1RS2 (Pantsir S1)
- SMA VPS-A06
- L-150 but it can also detect:
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Grippens play with skyflashes, which is literrally aim-7e, so balanced
- SMA VPS-A06 is otomatics track radar
- RN01-II Z-19 radar
Did they ever drop the dev blog for the SM3, I can’t find it anywhere.
Perhaps its just me, but since they added the Kh38s the quality of my matches has decreased drastically. My ITO’s radar doesn’t even lock on to the missiles most the time, and if theres more then one of the Su-25SM3S up, the game seems to have been decided on which team is winning. I just dont think its reasonable to have missile that can lock outside the range of SPAA, meanwhile spawning aircraft is still relatively cheap in terms of SP. Not to be a cynic, but to me it seems like an addition solely with the purpose of increased Russian win rates. There was no devblog, no mentioning of the vehicle nor its weapons until the first dev server (maybe second I might be wrong). Missiles like the KH-38s have a place in the game, but one that needs balancing.
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It’s worked
Ussr win rate jumped up. What’s weird is they block/ removed any comments mentioning the 38s from the forms
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Yikes, I really do not have any meaningful comment to that. I just hope this isn’t going to be the new state of affairs, and they’ll change the missile soon. I was just playing another match before writing this, and I literally only died to just the Su-25SM3. I do not want to be that type of player that says Russia mains are handheld, but this type of addition really makes it hard to counter that notion.
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not the SM3
Yes the SM3, it’s a chronically subsconic aircraft so it’s not getting to high altitude in any reasonable timeframe.
And it fires IR missiles which are distracted by smoke and buildings at the least.
some maps don’t have buildings (snowy/desert ones)
Not to mention a smart pilot will always target SPAAs first, where no fighting occurs (less wrecks, less smoke, less buildings)
SU25 doesn’t need to go high and fast, the missile does all the job.
you can fire the TV version without direct line of site and the missile will track in many cases if done right
Most spaa don’t have smoke, and are slow so they are a sitting duck for the sm3.
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In fact, only the FlaRakRad, Canadian ADATS and the Otomatic have smoke when it comes to top tier SPAA.
The US ADATS gets ESS, I do not know if ESS can disrupt TV guidance, since thermals see through it.