J-10C is at 14.3

lmao, dude what’s up with you try to shoehorn the j10c being half baked as logical? crab bucket mentality lmao

Gets blinded by AESA radar and EW suite while demolished by Meteor missile.

That’s cute :)

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You do realize Rafale can also carry Meteor missiles with MICA right :)

They will come, otherwise the 4th generation wouldn’t be able to fight against the 5th generation; the leaks are almost always correct.

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can’t hurt to taste it


Gaijin still has some room to maneuver to resolve this; some maps themselves are quite large and poorly utilized. Gaijin could increase the size of some maps by another 50 to 80 km, or in the case of maps like the Golan Heights, they could increase the game’s rendering area and place the airfields much further apart at each point on the map. This map allows for that; when flying a MiG-25, you can easily see how restricted and poorly utilized this map is. Even though Gaijin has gradually increased their size, this one is enormous and has huge potential.

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I made a very simple example that turned out awful but is understandable. Where it’s in red, you could see airfields, and in blue, various objectives like troop bases, refineries, and military targets that, when destroyed, reduce tickets. On a map of this size, as I’m imagining, it could easily support 26 players per side or even more. This would actually bring a lot of fun, but I highly doubt they’ll do something like this. It’s worth remembering that I’m assuming this is for higher levels, and ground attack planes could respawn in some random locations closer to them.

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not really, its current play experience is very similar to SU-30SM, especially in BVR speed, but the drag problem causing its slower acceleration, and it can only reach over 1.3 mach in the beginning of the game, in the rest part of the game it don’t have enough time to accelerate. the only advantage compared to SU-30SM is a bit better mobility but also more energy bleeding. anyway it’s fm is su-30sm level, and less also worse missile, so it’s not even equal to SU-30SM, how to compete with SM2 and others

announced a year ago and is said to get in service in a few months just before the update

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If only that logic wasn’t applied selectively.

E.g. the WS-10 on j10c has unimaginably more sources than some brochures and “being in plans”, but oh well.

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they love their selective realism, they don’t outright make ussr op (sometimes they just flat out do though lol bmpt) but they definitely and always press a finger on the scale in their favor

Doubtful of it’s effectiveness if it’s even there it has been completely incapable to suppress air defense irl.

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Didnt say I dont understand it, its just not relevant for the missiles raw performance

Seems pretty accurate to me

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I am not very sure why I am arguing with someone like you. You just post numbers and theories, others (including me) post real in-game performance with based opinions, something you wouldnt have with 19 battles in J-10A and combined ZERO battles in J-11B and J-10C, and before you comment about 326 games in J-8F that carries the PL-12 - well that plane doesnt face opponents nearly as capable as top tier jets, does it.

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There have already been numerous complaints about how the J10C was implemented and its lack of performance.
Playing a few bullet hell matches with China, using J10As and J10Cs and facing aircraft like the EF, Rafale, and Gripen E and C, you can clearly see that the J10C lacks significant performance; it performs worse than the A.
The plane lacks an engine, it’s considerably heavier than the A-Class, and the J-10C looks like a tired version of the A.
This plane shouldn’t have been included in the game the way it was.
It would have been better to call it the J10B and leave adding the real J10C with its true capabilities as WS10B and C for another patch.
The plane is simply awful, it lacks performance, it lacks countermeasures… Everything is missing.
Is it really that difficult to flash WS10B to the J10C?

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i mean if it had the WS10B that be great but J10 isnt very good dogfighter its not ranked very high in it its one of the worst of the top rank dogfighters

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So what’s the problem with being the worst of the best? The problem is that in the game you face the best.
I don’t want the J10C to be the top dog, I just want it to perform about average compared to its peers.
WS10b is the minimum

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yeah im just saying this isnt new the J10A isnt paticurally good at dogfighting im pretty sure the new grippen E even heavier can still beat it

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its at least better than the j11/j11a.
prolly worse than the j11b/j10a though, with j11b being the best dogfighter China has

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just wish it kept the R73s for dogfight missiles

Which is funny cuz in real life J-10 beats the J-11 in dogfights rather easily iirc.

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Tbf Gripen E has a new engine barely bringing its TWR to a bit above 1. In a turn its slightly better than the J10C, with the new engine it would probably be better, and if they fix the drag maybe it could give the euro a run. Thats a lot of ifs though