J-10C is at 14.3

Gripen E also has increased weight so it’s only a slight engine performance increase.

It can still give J-10s, Eurofighter and Rafale some issues but it practically has to be a low speed dogfight.

Now imagine Gripen E with MICA’s and IRIS-T.

Would be a literal demon at close to medium range.

for J-11B maybe, as J-10C has much better radar and ECM system than it. since J-11B is much older with last generation electronics and missiles.
it even won SU-35 several times, though SU-35 has much powerful radar, as reported, J-10C won by much smaller RCS, more advanced radar and better ECM which reduced the N035’s range to similar standard, then the PL-15 get the final kill.

Huh?

I was saying that J-10 beats J-11’s in dogfight on my previous comment?

Definitely will get IRIS-T in the future, but MICAs were denied. Stuck with AMRAAMs till MBDA Meteor comes. 😔

Ah, I jumped over the “dogfight” part

J-10A outclasses the J-11B in most metrics

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It doesn’t, J-10A actually loses in most except a few like radar gimbal
Otherwise J-11B is better in basically everything

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We were talkking about dogfight scenario where the J-10A is simply better

i believe pl12A is being added

Indeed it is

J10C is getting its new better engine and PL15s

PL-12A, not 15.

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now only 120CM to make it perfect

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J10C is just a 13.7-14.0 aircraft. It has AESA, yes, but it’s awful missile homing head compensates its advantages. PL-12 and PL-12a are more interested in chasing chaffs rather than enemy targets while their carrier jets radar maintain a radar lock. It seems PL-12 family can easily chaffed at 14.7 comparing to other missiles. I’m really curious what is the actual K/D or K/R ratio of J-10C

Every AMRAAM shares the same seeker with the exception of the mica. IT IS KNOWN

Then the PL-12A/AIM-120D have GNSS which is useful is some situations if you can keep your own radar lock/track

Mine is 2.4 kdr after just 29 matches, many of those were part of the stock grind, which limits the jet’s effectiveness. It’s still on the stock grind, but I already have all the important stuff.

I think it’s decent, my main complaint is the small amount of CM’s for 14.3.

I don’t have much of an issue with that amount at 13.7 with the J-10A, but at 14.3 is just too little and you need to be very frugal with your chaff/flares deployment which sometimes results in deaths that could be avoided by spamming a bit more.

For that reason, I haven’t touched the J-15T, It makes no sense that it is 14.7, should be 14.3 too. Even if it gets there, it will be hard to convince myself to play a jet with only 48 CM’s. Maybe the EW update will save it

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How to play J-10C?. WHat ever I do, I just end up clubed by enemy missiles. If I get a clear shot, the enemy just shoot my missile off and fire another missile that kills me.