J-10C is at 14.3

14.3 without any new missiles given to them to actually do anything. Meanwhile, the new Gripen E is 14.0 with AIM-120Cs. Gaijin really screwing over China every single update, no domestic engine for J-10C, no new missiles, took them one whole update to realize that the Z-10ME’s CM-502s was bad.

Actually give some reasoning to why you think this is fair and even footing. Because right now it literally is a J-10A with better radar (that has little to zero significance for gameplay) and a better engine.

The better features are primarily aimed towards Sim, which I enjoy, but still. Overall it’s not much better than the J-10A.

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Literaly none of the new stuff got new missiles besides the gripen e that doesnt beenfit from the 120c

And? Still stuck on PL-12s for the last year; meanwhile, every nation gotten AIM-120 C-5s, R-77-1, etc.

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So what lol

I mean thats bc pl12 is good duh ? Id take pl12 over 120c any day of the week.

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PL-12 is dog shit lmao. What? You have to maintain a solid lock just for it to hit most of the time.

Err thats not how fox 3s work

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huh ?

The gripen e deserves to be increased to 14.3 BR. Almost everyone on the forums agree. I don’t know much about the J-10C but everyone did not get any new missiles so we’re all in the same boat here.

That’s how PL-12s work because it’s literally crap. The seeker is absolute trash, and misses half of the time if you leave it on it’s own. TWS doesn’t help guide the missile, I hope you realize that.

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Idk how it performs in arb but it defo needs to go up in grb. The fact that its not max br with 16 spice + 6 brim loadout is insane

Almost all of the Fox 3s in game have the same seeker so it’s not just a problem with the pl-12

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All the fox3s use the same seeker besides the mica and the phoenix

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It should be 14.3 too, lol. This is no excuse for the J-10 to be any lower man. Lol, acting like the PL-12’s aren’t good, they’re so much better than the R-77’s even.

Bro I don’t know about that. Have you used them? Literally they aren’t even close to R-77-1. It’s literally only a 15-20 km missile at best, with zero BVR capability.

J10c gets more, better missiles. Though gripen e should definitely be 14.3 anyways

Thats like every other fox3. Dont fire at people further if you dont want it to get notched. Only lobotomites die to fox3s from further

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Idk about that, I can get 30 KM kills easily with R-77-1s and AIM-120s.

Yeah that tends to happen when the average war thunder player is below average

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