J-10C is at 14.3

Do pesa radar Aldo have the ability to refresh tracks outside of scan zones? Cause aesa radars to in-game

If the PESA’s phasers are independently, digitally controlled and the radar is formed with independent sub-arrays (as in the antennae, filter, oscillators and amplifiers of each subsection are independent from those of other subsections) then yeah…
But why not have independent T/R unit if you already painfully grind these things to develop multi-beam?

Irl they are able to

Yes but they should have limited number of targets they can update outside of scan zone compared to something like an AESA.

im aware i was more asking in game, they seem to have memory but they dont refresh am i right? cause afaik both aesa and pesa are just tws esa ingame so i wanted to know if they made the distinction


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American statistics are not a good reference.

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True, same can be shown for the american and chinese abrams

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The J10C and F18E have similar stats if you consider american pilots being worse. In fact the both f18c of the swedish and americans have similar KD stats and we both know how swedish pilots are better after flying the gripen. The J-10C is superior than the F18e in top tier air.
Let’s talk facts then not stats, J-10C has better climb rate, turn radius, and energy retention. F18E is slower, and loses all it’s energy after one circle. Sure F18E has more missiles but any pilot can notch fox3 if they know how to. Not every pilot can guarantee a win in a dogfight, and J-10C can dictate how a dogfight with a super hornet will turn out. Aside from dogfights, J-10C will reach BVR speeds and altitude faster, all the super hornets I see hug the ground cause they cannot BVR at all. Sacrificing 4 fox 3 for a better flight performance is worth it. Also devs already confirmed they’re working on giving it a better engine which will just increase the gap between the two planes. F18E excels in CAS while J-10C can get downtiers to 11.7 in Ground. I didn’t even touch on pl12 vs aim120 but thats a whole 'nother story

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Are the US not perfectly in the middle of the pile K/B and K/D wise though? Seems perfectly fine to take them as the ‘average’ then.

man the germans really are blind on the ground and in the air lol. Also japan’s f18d stats are wild.

I know right. Something something minor nation players as per usual.

The issue is that it’s been almost a month since the J10 came to the game and it’s still missing the WS10B and the KLJ-7A still doesn’t work as it should; it was supposed to be like the Raven ES-05 on the Gripen.
The KLJ-7A is a fixed, angled-mounted AESA radar connected to a gimbal that rotates it.
No changes made so far.

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That’s one configuration of that radar, but that’s not the radar the j10c has in game

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J-10C uses KLJ-10A, the 7A is used on later batches of JF-17 iirc…

Edit: I mean this gives another space for them to f-up, right?

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The Gripen E would be 14.3 if and this is a big if, the 120s actually could hit something most of the time. Right now it has 7 missiles which are easily notched, multipathed, or chaffed. The J-10C is 14.3 because it has better missiles in every way.

absolutely, its not russian, thus will be half assed

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hilarious we got sm2 before j16 lol

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Part 1/2 on the PL-12
Long essay on PL-12 incoming, for future use it can be copied to other threads with slightly changed content/format.)

What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Even by your own standards you are wrong, since PL-12 has a much lower range than any AIM-120 ingame.

In reality, range matters just as much as maneuverability, maybe even more important. Sure, PL-12 has better close-range maneuverability, but that’s it. And AIM-120 isn’t some kind of Phoenix, it’s a 35G missile with decent control surfaces. 9/10 situations you won’t need the difference in maneuverability.

But in range, the PL-12 is far worse. Even though ∆v is higher, it quickly falls behind due to massively worse drag.

  1. AIM-120 is 177.8mm in diametre; PL-12 is 203mm.
  2. AIM-120 is 3.66m in length; PL-12 is 3.93.
  3. Drag coefficient multipliers are set as 1.425 or 1.405 for AIM-120 variants, but PL-12 is higher at 1.600.
  4. AIM-120 has an wing area multiplier of 1.275/1.225; PL-12’s wing area modifier is 1.4.
  5. AIM-120 maximum fin AoA is around 24°; PL-12’s maximum fin AoA is around 34°.
  6. AIM-120 lofts at 22.5° and with target elevation angle difference 3.5°, PL-12 lofts at 20° and intercepts at 2.25°.

So not only is PL-12 14% wider than the AIM-120, it is also inherently draggier, being 12-13% higher in drag coefficient multiplier. That’s right, these numbers MULTIPLY, not add, so the effect is pronounced. And the larger wing area and max AoA of the PL-12, while useful at close range, bleeds its energy fast and ultimately makes it less maneuverable in the terminal phase of a long-range launch.
The AIM-120’s intercept geometry is also more favourable at maintaining energy. There are many videos detailing how direct to target is actually slower to hit than the same missile lofting, and that a higher loft within reason improves range.

End Part 1/2

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If gaijin didnt give japan su30MKM. It would have not come. It is as simple as that, but they insisted japan gets a toptier which is some what fair tbh.

30SM2 was a justification method to giving russia’s best jet to another nation(30SM → 30MkM to japan)

It would have made the russian toptier not unique to Russia.

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