I mean not like 1.5 K/D is hard to achieve, man I have almost 3 K/D on an AMX A-1A while that plane is probably the most overtiered vehicle (its the same BR as a 21bis or 25!) I have ever touched. Also the improved MAWS doesnt do anything in actual gameplay.
The point is that the flight performance is not on par with other top tier jets and the armament although very good (except for IR missiles) still doesnt make it equal.
Yes, we will get the WS-10B someday and yes, we will get the PL-15, but its not enjoyable playing it right now.
well J10C is missing quit a bit of parts SU30s missing new countermeasures gripen E missing parts of its FM J10C just has the most missing parts including the missiles and the engine which it should have
Well PL-12 can still somehow (miraculously) lose track of a su-30sm2 if both they and me break/notch right after launch, while their r-77-1 usually finds me.
Doubt that. We may probably never get the WS-10B in the forseeable future and if it arrives, I fear that it would be severely gimped.
Huh? It is 100% sure that both will be added because they already are in the files, if this current J-10C gets changed OR we get a new vehicle i.e. J-10C (Late) I dont know, but we will for sure see a J-10 with WS-10B and PL-15 probably early 2026.
I sincerely don’t want to spend hours tying to gain another 420k RP to grind another J-10C just with a better engine… And some birdie told me that they are not currently working on implementing the WS-10B onto the current J-10C.
Still, the audacity not implementing the WS-10B, even though we literally have WS-10A already on J-11B…I really don’t understand why implementing it onto J-10C would be that hard.
BTW since WS-10 allegedly was developed on the basis of CFM56, which in turn is based on GE F101, and F110 is a variant of F101, WS-10 may be interchangeable with F110, but with some significant reconstruction (but not that huge).
I’m not comparing it to just one fighter jet, I’m comparing it to all 14.3 fighter jets in the game.
For example, here I’m comparing it to the Rafale, SU-30, and EF;
Comparisons with the Su-30 are more frequent because there is no proof of the AL-41’s use; it’s a 2022 aircraft. There are 21 units of it in Russia and 12 on order in Belarus.
Everything that this plane could theoretically use, or that is declared by the manufacturer, it uses in the game, without any question.
In the case of the J10C, there are images of it using WS10B, and even images of it using WS10C.
Export versions of the fighter jet use the WS10B.
But it’s always denied.
proof is always required, like manuals.
The j10C (in-game) was inferior to the export model (irl).
Anger and indignation for those who have been playing Chinese games for a while isn’t just about the J10.
All Chinese vehicles come to the game with problems. China is always two patches behind Russia.
Let’s take the J11A/B as an example; the SU27SM was launched alongside the J11A (which was far inferior to the SU27SM), and it took China a whole year to receive a flanking fighter equivalent to the SU27SM… And this only happens with vehicles that compete with Russian vehicles.
Vehicles like the Abrams and the F16 MLU don’t suffer from these problems.
The gaijin always give the impression that they boycott China in favor of Russia.
“Take as example J-11A/B: The Su-27SM was released at the same time as J-11A (which was much inferior to the former), but China waited another year to receive a equivalent as Su-27SM.”
If you remember that J-11A sat at 13.7 for more than an entire year.
Yeah, but the entire reason why it has irbis radar because documentary says improved bars which could mean anything from irbis (as it is a development of bars) or aesa bars.
I mean in game irbis is better than bars with aesa (aesa bars would have lower gimbal limit than iris) so I ain’t complaining but it’s still dumb
Don’t forget that our beloved bug reporting manager #1 said on the Kh-38 on Su-30MKM, that the “tech feasibility” of Kh-38 being equipped to the Malaysian Flanker alone warrants for it addition in-game.
You pointed out the exact issue clearly, ppl only see rage but dont dig out the reasons behind it, hope more players can read this and instead of fighting each other, fighting the dev team that made the unequal gameplay.
Pl8bs are awful for anything but sneaky shots in arb, idk why gaijin didnt just give j10c pl5eii, 40g overload is a lie, and pl5s accel faster and still pull better while having the nonexistent saftey distance to activate the proxy
Yeah, this is the most baffling decision. Planes like the F-15E have to grind the AIM-9L which is completely useless at top tier and then they remove the PL-5EII which is one of the best IR missiles from this plane for no apparent reason.
I think the devs massively overrate the Python 3 and think it’s the best missile in game
Actually, if he used AESA radars, he would be worse in the game.
The way Pesa/Aesa works in-game is practically the same, however Pesa radars have a much greater range than Aesa radars.
The gaijin does not differentiate between the operation of AESA and PESA, nor between fixed electronic radars and electronic radars with hybrid scanning.
Therefore, the SU-30SM2 greatly benefits from the choice of a PESA radar with hybrid scanning.
If AESA worked with multiple beams like it does in IRL. The Su-30SM2 would probably come with AESA radars.
Since AESA and PESA are the same in the game, it came with PESA without the radar trade-off.