J-10C is at 14.3

But he is worse.
In terms of acceleration and top speed, it’s better than the F-18; in everything else, it’s worse, including in terms of survivability.
72 CM is a joke

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that’s more CM than the rafale btw, and have you ever actually used the F-18E?? since the plane has no acceleration and massive energy bleed your pretty much dead after 1 turn, the plane also only has 120 regular cm instead of large but has no MAW to help it know when a real treat is coming to save CMs like the J10 so i would like to know in what world is the F-18E better in any other way than the J10c other than missile count.

rafale gets 168 cms
112 chaff and 56 flares

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oh yeah my b i forget it gets more than the stat card

Speed definitely helps when you are notching, but I’m afraid that the Super H doesn’t have enough to notch an AMRAAM at distance.
That said, the top 3 should be raised to 14.7; perhaps plus Su-30SM1 and JAS39E, if neither then the latter should be raised to 14.3. CN/US/IL at this moment have the worst 14.0-14.3 jet fighters now, compared to the top 3.

Yeah your correct, i just cant understand why so many people complaining about the J-10C spend all their time comparing it to the 1 jet at its Br its undoubtably better than.

I love how a person who doesnt have a single battle in neither of the J-10s says it should be 14.3

His other points stand, he’s just wrong that at current state of affairs J-10C fits in 14.3. On the other hand it does have a MAWS and NCTR that mey bump its BR to 14.0. But maybe not enough to 14.3.
If you check mine statcard then you know I suffer generally but managed to achieve a K/D of 1.5 and K/R of 1.2 in J-10C. (may drop in the future, considering how the Snail would act to further gimp J-10 in general)

I mean not like 1.5 K/D is hard to achieve, man I have almost 3 K/D on an AMX A-1A while that plane is probably the most overtiered vehicle (its the same BR as a 21bis or 25!) I have ever touched. Also the improved MAWS doesnt do anything in actual gameplay.

The point is that the flight performance is not on par with other top tier jets and the armament although very good (except for IR missiles) still doesnt make it equal.

Yes, we will get the WS-10B someday and yes, we will get the PL-15, but its not enjoyable playing it right now.

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well J10C is missing quit a bit of parts SU30s missing new countermeasures gripen E missing parts of its FM J10C just has the most missing parts including the missiles and the engine which it should have

Well PL-12 can still somehow (miraculously) lose track of a su-30sm2 if both they and me break/notch right after launch, while their r-77-1 usually finds me.

Doubt that. We may probably never get the WS-10B in the forseeable future and if it arrives, I fear that it would be severely gimped.

Huh? It is 100% sure that both will be added because they already are in the files, if this current J-10C gets changed OR we get a new vehicle i.e. J-10C (Late) I dont know, but we will for sure see a J-10 with WS-10B and PL-15 probably early 2026.

But hey, atleast we got 26km HMD!

I sincerely don’t want to spend hours tying to gain another 420k RP to grind another J-10C just with a better engine… And some birdie told me that they are not currently working on implementing the WS-10B onto the current J-10C.

Still, the audacity not implementing the WS-10B, even though we literally have WS-10A already on J-11B…I really don’t understand why implementing it onto J-10C would be that hard.

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I will eat my hat if we dont get it in the 1st or 2nd update of 2026.

BTW since WS-10 allegedly was developed on the basis of CFM56, which in turn is based on GE F101, and F110 is a variant of F101, WS-10 may be interchangeable with F110, but with some significant reconstruction (but not that huge).

Just kidding.

I’m not comparing it to just one fighter jet, I’m comparing it to all 14.3 fighter jets in the game.
For example, here I’m comparing it to the Rafale, SU-30, and EF;

Comparisons with the Su-30 are more frequent because there is no proof of the AL-41’s use; it’s a 2022 aircraft. There are 21 units of it in Russia and 12 on order in Belarus.
Everything that this plane could theoretically use, or that is declared by the manufacturer, it uses in the game, without any question.
In the case of the J10C, there are images of it using WS10B, and even images of it using WS10C.
Export versions of the fighter jet use the WS10B.
But it’s always denied.
proof is always required, like manuals.
The j10C (in-game) was inferior to the export model (irl).
Anger and indignation for those who have been playing Chinese games for a while isn’t just about the J10.
All Chinese vehicles come to the game with problems. China is always two patches behind Russia.
Let’s take the J11A/B as an example; the SU27SM was launched alongside the J11A (which was far inferior to the SU27SM), and it took China a whole year to receive a flanking fighter equivalent to the SU27SM… And this only happens with vehicles that compete with Russian vehicles.
Vehicles like the Abrams and the F16 MLU don’t suffer from these problems.
The gaijin always give the impression that they boycott China in favor of Russia.

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Translation problems

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You did say that J-10C was worse than F-18E in any aspect other than energy fighting.

But on this aspect F-18’s large count of CM is cancelled with its low speed.

BTW thanks for that Portuguese text about J-11A/B, because it kind of helped me refreshing my Spanish

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“Take as example J-11A/B: The Su-27SM was released at the same time as J-11A (which was much inferior to the former), but China waited another year to receive a equivalent as Su-27SM.”

If you remember that J-11A sat at 13.7 for more than an entire year.

Not really it doesn’t get the aesa bars radar that it should have based off a pilot interview