So you’re saying that there’s no problem with the Rafale—which in real life gets kicked to death by the J-10C like a stray dog on the roadside—kicking the J-10C to death in the game?
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Bait? An M4 Sherman might be able to take down a Tiger 2 somewhere in the world, but that doesn’t make the M4 stronger than the Tiger 2. In real combat, there are more variables: what the Rafale is doing at the time, how skilled the pilot is, whether it’s carrying enough weapons, and what its mission is.
I have multiple nations worked on so… Unlike you, I’m unbiased, I see the pros and cons of the majority of each nation.
And what do you expect from a minor nation?
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People are always hypocritical. When Chinese fighter jets had no combat record, you would say they were made of paper, just for show, with no real combat capability at all. But once Chinese fighter jets actually achieved combat results, you suddenly pulled out a whole list of “objective factors” to try to deny the facts.
Just admit it: modern Chinese fighter jets are already leading the world. You should know that at least the Rafale is still brought up for comparison, but our dear Su-30, which was also shot down, has basically disappeared from the discussion entirely. And yet in game, both of those jets can kick the J-10C to death with one kick.
So stop trying to deny the existence of anti-China bias in this game. And by the way, the United States is the same—using aircraft from the 1980s and 1990s to fight against Russia’s newest jets, some of which still only exist on PowerPoint slides. The two strongest air forces in the real world, China and the US, have gradually been reduced to “stray dogs by the roadside” in top-tier rooms in game.
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lol
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You can continue arguing that way if it’s good for your “mental health,” but I maintain my position: a plane shooting down another plane doesn’t make it “stronger,” especially if it’s only just shot down one or two. A MIG-15 even shot down an F4 Phantom, if you didn’t know.
And using ChatGPT won’t make your argument any more convincing.
I think you should talk to your fellow countryman; he seems to be trying to say something nonsensical.
there was even a Po-2 that shot down an F-94
lol，The AI assisted translation I used to help you understand my meaning more accurately is actually using AI to defend myself in your eyes, so I will directly use the translation that comes with my phone
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That’s just a minor detail; your problem lies here:
May I ask if there are any issues with being honest
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To my knowledge, there has never been a J10C shot down by an enemy country in reality
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I just shot one down
Well, it’s a waste of both our time if you think the J-10C is better than the Rafale just because it shot down a random Rafale.
Then you know the F-15 hasn’t been shot down by any other aircraft, but that doesn’t mean it’s invincible.
And frankly, the number of downed aircraft is just for reference; nobody can be sure if the J-10C has been shot down, or how many, if the media covers it up, especially since it crashed in friendly territory where investigation is impossible.
Okay, let’s set aside reality and ask what you think of the J10C in the current game
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I still don’t have the J-10 myself, but I’ll give my assessment based on my experience fighting against it:
It’s much better than the F/A-18E and slightly better than the F-15C GE, but it’s not on the level of the Typhoon or Rafale.
Even so, it still has a chance to win against any opponent. Against the Rafale or Typhoon, their win rate would be higher, but not overwhelming — the J-10 can definitely shoot them down.
China has succeeded in creating an aircraft that can compete with Europe; it’s just not the best one.
And I don’t think China intends to create a “best of the best” weapon. They just need something good enough — numbers and tactics matter more. Japan and Germany lost simply because of numbers.
Weapons are made to win wars, not to be the strongest on paper.
I don’t think J10C is better than F15C Golden Eagle, but F18E is indeed more like a 14.0 aircraft than JAS39E
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it’s is. because PL 5 and PL 12 are feel good to use than AIM9M and aim120c5
but j10c don’t have pl5
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my bad, I was think that the same as j10a