While playing with mig25 , I lock a target and when I fire a R40RD missiles, the missile goes completely different direction than the locked target , already faced almost once a match already.
also is anyone else facing the same issue?
Im trying to find out what the iog is supposed to do on the missile.
Usually, this means that the missile will try to track the jet despite chaff getting locked.
Right now, it is acting like a aim9c.
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Yes but I don’t understand why it is going in the opposite side of the lock , I believe this was more like a similar issue the R24R had.
As far as i know, IOG is inertial navigation, means that the missile will fly from memory, ie. according to your last speed and direction before radar contact was lost, not that it will try to do as you described.
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Iog should allow for you, at the very least, to be able to relock and correct.
I have not had such luck.
As for the rest, every other missile in-game with iog is able to track the jet while chaff is locked. Even missiles without iog are able to (aim7)
Unless the r40rd was somehow given iog but they removed all other tracking tech when designing it.
That would be datalink, IOG kicks in only when the radar contact was lost.
ARHs fly on IOG if not fed radar data through DL until they go terminal for example.
That has nothing to do with IOG but with CW radars and seekers.
On missiles such as the aim7 and r27r, you can drop the lock and relock. neither have DL.
great…gotta love the soviets deciding to use even worse tech because its cheaper.
DL stands for datalink.
As for AIM-7s, depends on variant. 7P, like the one found on premium Hornets, has datalink.
As for relocking on standard Sparrows, its not datalink nor IOG that allows them to relock, but fact that missile seeker is already looking in direction where the “relocked” target is being iluminated by the attacking aircraft, and locking that.
Issue with this is, if the “relocked” target isnt in the missile FoV or vision cone, it wont track. If theres anything else, like chaff, it will track that.
the SARH missiles without IOG or DL are rather simple in ther mode of operation - they are all dependent on ilumination beam from the launching aircraft. Anything that interferes with that will hinder their ability to track.
You can see it everynow and then when someone makes post about it - they launch missile with enemy locked, but the missile goes for a friendly that was within the same ilumination cone. Reason for this is that the friendly gave stronger return to the missile seeker.
literally imagine having a flashlight and shining the beam at something. whatever reflects the most light, missile will go for since thats what its looking for.
watching a battle in sensor view helps a lot with understanding how things work and if something isnt clear, you can always share the replay.
Continuous-Wave isnt nation specific. You can refer to datamined missile data spreadsheet to see which missiles are pulse and which are continuous wave.
I know how radar stuff works in general. I just didnt expect the r40rd to use outdated tech like pulse. (Which they really need to add to the stat card since it leads to confusion).
At least now i know to never touch that missile and stick with the IR missiles. 10.0 missile trying to engage 12.0s is not what i want to deal with.
Its CW according to linked missile spreadsheet.
Very odd in that case because it has been going after the first chaff it sees so far.
Might be issue with MiG-25 radar which is, to my knowledge, adapted MiG-23 radar. IRL its called something like coherent doppler … honestly who cares.
Issue is it cant filter out chaff when looking against the sky as normal PD would do, its MTI mode (the doppler one capable or filtering out ground clutter and chaff) works only at certain alt, only against ground and it engages automatically once youre higher than 2km IIRC, its been a while since I last flew 23MLA.
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I thought CW seekers could continue to track the jet even when the radar switches to chaff as long as the jet remains in the cone.
Other none-PD radar with CW missiles are able to do this.
Unless there is something with the mig25’s radar that causes this to not work?
This is all talking about the regular SRC mode btw. I have not be able to try the MTI mode yet.
Not always like if the enemy is defending and continuing to drop chaff as long as he is getting spiked by your radar. Its not reliable certainly and I wouldnt bet on it.
AIM-7 syndrome
I have my aim7e2 often continue to track even while the enemy turns side on and using chaff.
For the mig25, even them chaffing while slightly turning causes it to go for chaff.
Guessing the seeker for the r40 just sucks compared to the aim7e2.
That’s just your average AIM-7 moment… Hang on
While it is entirely possible that 7E2 has better seeker, this sounds more like he didnt get chaff between him and the missile, ie. defended incorrectly.
All i know is that the enemy is doing the same thing and one is going for chaff while the other isnt.
Send replay and we can take a look at it in sensor view