Increasing the Maximum Battle Rating of Ground Vehicles and Helicopters

Hey everyone! Today, we’ll be releasing an update that increases the maximum Battle Rating of ground vehicles from 12.0 to 12.7, and helicopters from 12.3 to 13.0. As part of this decompression, some ground vehicles with a Battle Rating of 11.0 and above will also see their Battle Rating increased.

These changes were made to decompress the current Battle Rating upper limit. The goal is to separate top-tier SAMs and MBTs, which were previously concentrated at a single Battle Rating. Therefore, these changes prioritize decompression over balancing the effectiveness of all available vehicles. These are initial changes and affect top-tier vehicles currently at Battle Rating 12.0, as well as some tanks with Battle Ratings of 11.0-11.7.

Top-tier SAM systems have been moved to higher Battle Ratings, with the exception of those from Japan, Sweden, and China. New anti-aircraft systems are planned for these nations in the future (in upcoming major updates), which will be positioned at the highest Battle Ratings. These changes, along with our future plans, will allow us to distribute vehicles more evenly across the expanded Battle Rating range, as we will be making planned adjustments to the Battle Ratings of both top-tier vehicles and vehicles in other Battle Ratings, taking into account the performance data we receive.

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Cool but could be higher BRs like 14.0-13.7 tbh

Edit: Also maybe consider T-80U-E1 12.3 + 3BM60 since it can actually use modern Russian sabots compared to older T-80U models

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You guys really consider to Tiger UHT to be comparable to the Mi-28NM and AH-64E huh? Never mind that they get missile that are 2-3x further range and have LDIRCM…

Oh, and both their missiles get much bigger explosive payloads + the high caliber ATGM buff (170 mm +)

Oh, and the AH-64E also has double the missile capacity of the Tiger

Oh, and they also get a cannon which the Tiger doesn’t

Tiger UHT was already a joke at 12.3, now it’s a whole comedy special. I’ve replaced it in my lineups with the HAD-E because of how unreliable PARS-3 is.

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About time 😅

Please reconsider the following changes:

Spyder 12.0–>12.7, simply unreasonable
Merkava MK4M 12.0–> 12.7, belongs at 12.3
Challenger 2 BN/E 12.0 → 12.7, both belong at 12.3 or even staying at 12.0, l27A1 is not top tier material
AH-60/UHT/HAD/129D 12.3–>13.0, none of the spike carriers are 13.0 material come on gaijin.

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Wait, so… 10.3 and 10.7 vehicles in a pretty good spot now?

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LDIRCM + F&F = 13.0
Only F&F = 12.3

Helicopter with F&F are fine at current br. Only LDIRCM helicopters should go higher.

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Spot on, LDIRCM puts some of these helis miles above the rest

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@Stona_WT
The snail forgot to move the Tiger HAC aka the French Tiger UHT

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This is the SECOND time they have had to be reminded.

WHEN are we getting LDIRCCM modelled for IIR missiles gaijin??

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LDIRCM + F&F = 13.0
Only F&F = 12.3-12.7
FR 12.3 Tiger HAC is not on the list at all

Why such a huge gap between Challenger 2 at 11.7 and BN/E version that get 1.0 increase?
Challenger 2E - 12.3
Challenger BN - 12.3

M1A1 stays 11.3 somehow, why?

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Leclercs arguably arent 12.7 material.

Current implementation of Merkava IVs definetively isnt 12.3 material.

Leopard 2A6 and PSO (without MEXAS beak) absolutely arent contemporary to Leopard 2A7V.

BN and Challenger 2E also arent arguably 12.7 material.

Leopard 2A4CAN isnt also worthy of BR increase if the MEXAS beak isnt planned for it.

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Wow, DM 53 back on the leo 2 PL!

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no decompression for cas br? if ground max at 12.7 don’t air in ground should be at least 13.7?

why leo 2a6 and pso is at the same br as 2a7v? if anything it is closer to 2a5 unless you give pso its d-tech armor

why leo 2a4m can still don’t have its dm53? at the same br m1a2 and m1a1 hc’s get m829a2 and 5 sec reload

still no fix for LDIRCM? no reduced multipath height for ground battle? no radar return on heli rotor?

still no fix for leo 2a7v and 2 pso armor either

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Will its good that the BR for helis get changed, Helis which have up to 16km F&F Missiles wwhile having 16 of them + LDIRCM+ an Chain Gun, they should not be at the same BR as an Heli which has no chain gun, only 8 Missiles with 7km and not even any kind of IRCM

Tiger UHT/HAC should therefore not be 13.0, but 12.7 instead

Also, where are the Outer PARS Pylons for the Tiger?

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As i mentioned in another thread, what gaijin is doing here isn’t decompression, it’s recompression of top tier itself, gone are the days where you can spade a top tier tank at 12.0 with minimal fear of facing 13.0 CAS every match, now you will be facing it every match because 12.7 ≠ 13.0, 9 times out of 10 so while 10.7-11.7 gets a decent break, everything past that is going to be a nightmare

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Yeah, spikes are so incredibly unreliable,
Gaijin needs to start justifying all their br changes so we can see how and why they do these things
That will actually help the playerbase understand their decision-making.

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12.3 really, as their asymmetrically match that of the Ka-52 which is staying at it’s current br

Even a small statement with each change would be appreciated, because this is a blanket BR increase with little though put into most of it

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10.7 will hopefully not be uptier central anymore and 10.3 will be having it even better now

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